All the people that tried to convince me over the last decade that she was somehow an intelligent principled candidate. Where are they now LOL. She was worse than even I implied at the time.
During what time period? I remember when she was trying to enter the presidential primary, I looked into her. She seems great on the surface, but you don’t have to go much beneath the surface to see differently, and the further you looked, the worse it got
I was still referring to the last decade so yes. 2015 till now. That particular patch of time. People were telling her as the most principled and moral candidate rivaling even Bernie Sanders.
Interesting. Both in how people thought she was the most principled and moral, and that your ruler is Sanders. My rulers are Warren and AOC. Something about Sanders just kept me away from him. His supporters maybe?
You’re not wrong that Sanders had some of the most toxic supporters. And still seemingly does. But there’s a lot of reasons for that. Part of it was that many of them just like the concept of him and were not supporters of him for any particular political stances. He was the candidate that the GOP focused on promoting the most, to divide and conquer left-leaning voters turning them against each other. Something Sanders himself didn’t want. But which worked in spades.
Sanders the person I think is genuine and a great candidate. I would easily vote for him AOC or Warren on any given day.
All the people that tried to convince me over the last decade that she was somehow an intelligent principled candidate.
Just like with Ron Paul, the fact that she was outspokenly critical of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (among other fronts) made her such an outlier that people would tilt towards her on reflex. Also like Ron Paul, her deeply reactionary religious beliefs and her profound racism never got the kind of daylight it deserved even among her mainstream media critics.
She was worse than even I implied at the time.
I saw a lot of people lashing out at her as a “Russian Asset” precisely because she was so staunchly anti-war. The fact that she was corrupt (and, largely corrupt in favor of Narendra Modi, whom these hawks continue to adore) was incidental to the fact that she was opposed to the Bush Era Middle East atrocities.
One of the most damning critiques of Gabbard in the modern day is that she was absolutely full of shit with regard to her anti-war stance. Turns out it was entirely circumstantial and fell away rapidly when the belligerents changed. But, again, this never seems to be a point against her with the Bush Era neocons. If you can get Gabbard on board with bombing China or Pakistan or Iran, that’s good enough for them.
All the people that tried to convince me over the last decade that she was somehow an intelligent principled candidate. Where are they now LOL. She was worse than even I implied at the time.
I remember when people preferred her to Bernie or thought she was like Bernie in 2020.
I always thought she was a Putin loving cultist stooge and she keeps proving me correct.
During what time period? I remember when she was trying to enter the presidential primary, I looked into her. She seems great on the surface, but you don’t have to go much beneath the surface to see differently, and the further you looked, the worse it got
I was still referring to the last decade so yes. 2015 till now. That particular patch of time. People were telling her as the most principled and moral candidate rivaling even Bernie Sanders.
Interesting. Both in how people thought she was the most principled and moral, and that your ruler is Sanders. My rulers are Warren and AOC. Something about Sanders just kept me away from him. His supporters maybe?
Took me a moment to realise you meant ruler as in measuring tape, and not ruler as in king.
You’re not wrong that Sanders had some of the most toxic supporters. And still seemingly does. But there’s a lot of reasons for that. Part of it was that many of them just like the concept of him and were not supporters of him for any particular political stances. He was the candidate that the GOP focused on promoting the most, to divide and conquer left-leaning voters turning them against each other. Something Sanders himself didn’t want. But which worked in spades.
Sanders the person I think is genuine and a great candidate. I would easily vote for him AOC or Warren on any given day.
They are in the same place they were then, Moscow or St Petersburg
Just like with Ron Paul, the fact that she was outspokenly critical of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (among other fronts) made her such an outlier that people would tilt towards her on reflex. Also like Ron Paul, her deeply reactionary religious beliefs and her profound racism never got the kind of daylight it deserved even among her mainstream media critics.
I saw a lot of people lashing out at her as a “Russian Asset” precisely because she was so staunchly anti-war. The fact that she was corrupt (and, largely corrupt in favor of Narendra Modi, whom these hawks continue to adore) was incidental to the fact that she was opposed to the Bush Era Middle East atrocities.
One of the most damning critiques of Gabbard in the modern day is that she was absolutely full of shit with regard to her anti-war stance. Turns out it was entirely circumstantial and fell away rapidly when the belligerents changed. But, again, this never seems to be a point against her with the Bush Era neocons. If you can get Gabbard on board with bombing China or Pakistan or Iran, that’s good enough for them.