I think we all want to be paid a fair wage for our labor AND and fair price for food, with reasonable expectations of safety on both sides. 50+ years of wage stagnation and the expectation from major corpos that they can keep extracting more profits are two factors working against us, though. The problem isn’t about what consumers are willing to pay for food.
We, the People, aren’t going to be able to fix this if we don’t start electing leaders that can resist big-dollar donors and lobbyists, because we need regulations around major markets that will be met with insane amounts of resistance by money-backed interest groups. We need labor reforms, we need housing reforms, we need finance sector reforms, and none of those are favorable for a Fortune 500 company’s “Line go up” policy when implemented. But far too much money has flowed out of the hands of the poor and middle class while the ultra-wealthy are buying islands and yachts (and bugout bunkers in case of an uprising or whatever), and fixing that issue in both an acute and a systemic way is necessary and needs to happen before we get better.
I feel like your entire post is ignoring the hoarding of wealth at the top while focusing on the financial impacts that would happen to the people at the bottom due to the aforementioned greed at the top. Those people “who have no idea how much their food would cost if they were paying the workers a fair wage” have also never been paid a fair wage.
That last part is where we disagree. You are underestimating the wealth extraction that has taken place during the post-WWII boom. I’m not going to argue further because I’m going to bed, but I’ll suffice to agree to disagree.
I feel it’s necessary to point out a lot of these farmers are contacted to major brands, both food and pest control, who take the majority of profit, often leaving the farmers themselves without much.
We literally used to have Farm worker visas but then Americans got too racist against the workers who pick our food and then they stop giving them out it’s so frequently so now we have the undocumented labor problem
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I think we all want to be paid a fair wage for our labor AND and fair price for food, with reasonable expectations of safety on both sides. 50+ years of wage stagnation and the expectation from major corpos that they can keep extracting more profits are two factors working against us, though. The problem isn’t about what consumers are willing to pay for food.
We, the People, aren’t going to be able to fix this if we don’t start electing leaders that can resist big-dollar donors and lobbyists, because we need regulations around major markets that will be met with insane amounts of resistance by money-backed interest groups. We need labor reforms, we need housing reforms, we need finance sector reforms, and none of those are favorable for a Fortune 500 company’s “Line go up” policy when implemented. But far too much money has flowed out of the hands of the poor and middle class while the ultra-wealthy are buying islands and yachts (and bugout bunkers in case of an uprising or whatever), and fixing that issue in both an acute and a systemic way is necessary and needs to happen before we get better.
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I feel like your entire post is ignoring the hoarding of wealth at the top while focusing on the financial impacts that would happen to the people at the bottom due to the aforementioned greed at the top. Those people “who have no idea how much their food would cost if they were paying the workers a fair wage” have also never been paid a fair wage.
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That last part is where we disagree. You are underestimating the wealth extraction that has taken place during the post-WWII boom. I’m not going to argue further because I’m going to bed, but I’ll suffice to agree to disagree.
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Why can’t the government subsidize food prices or farm wages? I mean it beats wasting it on tax breaks for billionaires and weapons for Israel.
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Why indeed.
I feel it’s necessary to point out a lot of these farmers are contacted to major brands, both food and pest control, who take the majority of profit, often leaving the farmers themselves without much.
We literally used to have Farm worker visas but then Americans got too racist against the workers who pick our food and then they stop giving them out it’s so frequently so now we have the undocumented labor problem
You’re very right, but one important caveat is that US-born citizens do not want these jobs. They literally think it’s beneath them and won’t do it.
I’m serious; I’ve worked with migrant farm laborers for 12 years. Citizens will choose exploitation over and over and over rather.
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Actually it turns out it’s a lot easier to just convince Americans to be cool with slavery again instead.