• athairmor@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    No troops have been deployed.

    “Trump wants to deploy troops to look tough” is a better headline.

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      18 hours ago

      Trump signed a memo late yesterday ordering 2,000 members of the National Guard to be deployed in Los Angeles County after federal immigration agents in riot gear squared off with hundreds of protesters for a second consecutive day

      Life isn’t instant.

      He ordered it, if it doesn’t happen it’s because someone in the chain of command is disobeyi g orders.

      Not saying that’s a bad thing, or that it’ll happen.

      But he has 100% ordered troop to be deployed and it’s actively in process. The headline is 100% correct

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        17 hours ago

        It’s not clear that he has the authority to order it, especially over the objection of the state governor. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/presidents-power-call-out-national-guard-not-blank-check is from 2024, largely about when Trump 1 ordered National Guard to DC, and why it’s different in states.

        TL; DR: National Guard is a state organization; if the President federalizes it, then it becomes subject to posse commitatus, same as the Army.

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          It’s not clear that he has the authority to order it

          Yeah and the courts can argue about that while it happens. That’s been his whole deal. Do whatever he wants and maybe someone will say “hey that’s illegal” but by that point it’s too late.

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          You mean “it’s clear that he does not have the authority to order it.” Anything short of that helps normalize Trump’s fascist lawlessness.

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          if the President federalizes it, then it becomes subject to posse commitatus, same as the Army.

          Which has happened before. Against Biden’s wishes at the time, it was done to enforce school desegregation in the south.

          Like, trump tries to pull lots of unprecedented shit, but this is precedented.

          It all depends on how Newsome handles it. And Newsome is a pretty big piece of shit.

          Next election for Cali gov is 2026 at least, this will push them away from neoliberals and towards a progressive willing to fight.

          We’re well past the point shit gets fixed quickly, doesn’t mean stop fighting, just get your expectations straight.

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      17 hours ago

      NYT has some video of some troops guarding the “Metropolitan Detention Center”, so we have proof of at least the seven troops pictured.