“class traitor”. Go away with that bs, they did their country a service by protecting the integrity of the US democracy against a violent mob. I get being upset how the police handles many issues but they are still needed. I doubt we’d be better off without them completely and no one is reporting on cops that follow their job honorably. They are here to protect the people. Yes, the system needs to be improved and the cops need to be trained properly and transparency has to be increased. Its just I still think the executive needs someone to enforce laws. Judiciary and legislature are nothing without that aspect so stop being so condescending to those who defended democratically elected representatives back then against the mob.

I can see your issue with the police union endorsing trump but still. “class traitor”, really?

He (the warlord) would still be murdered. Just with a justification - So it is really only a word game

Self defense only applies when you literally defend yourself from an attack in that moment. If you get away from a warlord with your life and kill him a day later thats again murder.

So you’d argue a civil servant that follows and order from trump that is legal but creates problems in one way or another for the American people are a collaborator? I don’t think we can speak of the word collaborator since up to now he has gained power completely legally and as long as you don’t help him carry out unconstitutional acts I don’t think this includes them.

You might think I’m being the self-righteous one. I actually think its the other way around. In a country with democracy and rule of law giving up on the belief that murder is wrong as a matter of principle just because it fits your narrative. What would you say when a person you ideologically support gets murdered as they caused violent protests that align with your ideology. Would you be opposed to that.

What am I even getting at. Murder and chaos like this has no place in society. At least not in one where the people can make sovereign choices.

The people in the government will now have to follow Trumps orders since he has the power to fire them and he wants to use it widely to replace them with yes-men. Yes the people working in the government are serving the people not the president. But you know he will get rid of people who won’t show him loyalty and for 4 years he’s kinda their boss. Collaborator makes it sound like the republican party is occupying the US illegally which it is not since they won (sadly).

The citizens of the US (the free people you’re talking about) voted him into office by their own volition

Based on personal believes I wouldn’t like perform for Trump if I was in Snoops position. But there’s no denying that Trump is legitimately the president starting this evening and by your logic anyone that works for trump directly or indirectly as part of the government legitimizes or serves Trump as president in one way or another

So the Jews are running the world after all!

The values a newspaper represent and in which political direction they lean do not have to be the same just because they’re owned by wealthy people or publicly traded.

I also wouldn’t classify any big corporation categorically far right just because they are big. Calling something far right/extremist just because you are not a fan of it doesn’t change what constitutes reality. This take is completely unhinged. What exactly is intrinsic about the political leaning?

You can call the NYT a bunch of things but I’d argue its hardly far right fascist propaganda.

Yes they would. Thats why Beeper is working on changing to a bridge setup that works client-side and not server-side. Remember, that Discord is not encrypted and authorities can just get your data from discord directly. Do not use discord in any sort of private context whatsoever. I don’t believe Discord itself isn’t actively using my messaging data anyways

You can be against this kind of behavior while also not celebrating murder, you know?

So it needs to be changed politically. If the people actually voted in their interest there would be no problem. If they vote against themselves they are at fault themselves. Thats how democracy works, even if its sad

Wish more people talked about reform than violence tbh. Thinking about leaving lemmy since associating myself with some people here makes me sick

The argument to ask who casts justice and decides the barrier is a legit one. You are using a strawman argument against him by saying they are in favor of allowing destruction of the lives of Americans happen. Such tactics are mostly used by populists and we do not need to stoop to such levels

The justice system should cast justice, and for that we need political pressure and reform. Self justice is not right in that way

The political system needs to change, killing CEOs will change nothing. They are just some random corpo people with a good work history and education that get paid well to act in the interest of shareholders. Nothing will change with this death. The US public just seems too ignorant about this massive issue. The US is a democracy and if the public actually pushed for strong healthcare reform and didn’t vote for someone who wants to cut healthcare benefits they could get improvement. All I see is radical violence LARPing that leads to nothing and some people acting all high and mighty acting self just which argue to kill like the top 1% and redistribute it and demonize them ignoring the fact that the masses aren’t behind them. This is lemmy, this is not real life! The chaos this causes just leads to more suffering without a solution. And a random guy who had the job of CEO died because he acted as he was supposed to in his job. Returning value for shareholders, since if he doesn’t he gets replaced with the next guy.

Wait couldn’t you have filed a lawsuit? I mean yeah, the cops didn’t do their job (I guess they could be sued for that too). But you would need proof in text form so just ask them again in a mail or letter. If they don’t do their job and you have proof then they’re screwed

What, the gear or the snowflake? I mean I know they are trolling but how do they make a connection to insects with that? That insects die in winter from cold temperatures?

You can work on both at the same time, but you can’t abandon gas from one to the other second

There is no way in which the US will be embargod. Even under trump european nations will try to keep a mostly beneficial relation with the US due to the economic reliability and US strength in global politics. Sorry bud!