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  • Actually did something similar in high school by accident. Me and some nerd friends built a To Do list app. The school was really supportive and thought it was cool, so they emailed it out to everybody. Well guess what, we stored passwords in plaintext as that’s how we were tsught to do it. And guess what, students, when creating an account based on a school email, use the same password as the school email. Most social media was blocked, so school email was how people were communicating with school friends back then. We suddenly had access to most people’s personal conversations. I didn’t give away that data or brag about it though, just abused it myself until we decided to shut it down.





  • First of all you confused democratic socialism with social democracy. Socialism is fundamentally incompatible with capitalism. What you describe is social democracy.

    More importantly, “properly regulated capitalism” has always led to regular capitalism. “properly regulated capitalism” still results in exploitation, if not domestically then abroad. “properly regulated capitalism” still results in commodification of common goods, depletion of resources, a class society, and environmental damage.

    Capitalism has only ever worked in theory









  • Hm I thought we were going somewhere. Whether or not I support Mao is besides the point. The point is that we both seem to think it’s good that in that system, people could choose their own generals. Not to mention you’ve poured your heart and soul into developing an incredible federated software that defies central control. I know why I like that, but I’m confused as to why you would.

    I’m not some pure-blooded anarchist. I don’t strictly adhere to one ideology. I don’t think anyone should.


  • The collective decision will be just as authoritarian on the minority who disagree as the kingdom is to those not integrated into the power structure.

    Please rethink this.

    For one, even just the outcome of any kind of collective decisionmaking process will generally be one that doesn’t oppress the masses, or at least not most of them. Whereas the king might decide at his own whim that he shall receive everybody’s firstborn baby to eat.

    More importantly, there’s also enforcement. If we are comparing the kingdom to, say, a modern nation state with a police force, then yes, the enforcement can be authoritarian in either case. But you know as well as I that anarchists don’t advocate for electoral nation states precisely because they create an oppressive political class, as well as a capitalist class in the case of capitalism.

    The anarchist definition of hierarchy (and thus authority) constantly shifts

    I would also argue that MLs tend to shift the definition of authority to something completely meaningless (Engels’ definition) whenever criticized by anti-authoritarians.


  • These things are central to what I consider authority. You may have a different definition but then I guess we’re discussing different things. “Proletarian authority” makes zero sense in the vocabulary of anarchism, it only works with Engels’ definition that conflates authority with power. But I don’t think arguing about the meaning of words is a good pastime.

    It sounds like you are in favor of Mao letting people choose their own generals rather than being appointed centrally. Why? Are you some sort of anti-authoritarian?


  • No I think I agree with what any average worker would understand as authority. And I think any sane anti-authoritarian would agree with Engels that there are contexts where it is important to have a single leader, such as the ship example. The difference is, does the crew agree collectively to pick such a leader, or is the leader forced upon them by threat of violence? What if they want a different leader, are they able to choose a new one? If they disobey a ludicrous order from a corrupt captain, will they be systematically persecuted? These aren’t crazy questions to consider IMO, but Engels wants to handwave the entire concept.