How can I explain this to you? If those few “Democrats” hadn’t voted for it, it wouldn’t have passed.
The SAVE Act passed 220–208, with Democrats Jared Golden, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Henry Cuellar, and Ed Case voting in support of a bill that could disenfranchise millions of voters.
People don’t expect anything different from the Republicans, but for some reason folks have higher expectations of the Democrats, despite decades of soul crushing disappointment.
…And if any of the 216 conservatives hadn’t, it would have passed either. Or what about-
If it hadn’t been drafted at all, it would lot have passed.
As long as you’re blaming the fire, you’ll never see who lit the match. But I suppose that first matter anymore, so…. Go on. Have fun lynching the few while the many continue doing whatever the fuck they want.
Please simplify it more for me you are clearly so much smarter than all the rest of us. How lost we would be without you defending the Democratic party so valiantly.
216 grown-ups in one group are in favor of it and want it to exist. Among those 216 grown-ups are the people that made it the thing that hurt people.
4 grown-ups of another group are also in favor of it.
That you are mad at the 4 grown-ups and not even bothering to mention the 216 grown-ups that created/are in favor of it, shows that you have fallen for the distraction they would want you to pay attention to.
If it helps, you can picture being on a playground and there are 216 bullies attacking all the girls.
Now imagine four kids that aren’t usually seen as bullies join in.
What you’re doing is being angry at the four kids that aren’t usually bullies and blaming them for the hurt the girls had to endure while excusing the 216 kids for their behavior.
How about this:
You’re on a battlefield facing the enemy, their entire force attacks you.
4 people from your side go to join the enemy side and help it win.
Are you letting those 4 back into camp afterwards?
Then let’s say your army’s leadership says “we have to let them back in”
It doesn’t seem to matter what conservatives do anymore, does it? As long as there’s analogies that explain how it’s the fault of the democrats, it really seems to matter very little.
All I see is the usual to-be-expected-from lemmy “this is the democrats fault!”
Conservatives drafted the bill. BLAME THEM.
216 voted for it- BLAME THEM.
Four Democrats voted for it. BLAME THEM.
I’m just sick to death of the anti-democrats propaganda when it’s the fault of conservatives that we’re here to begin with!
I’m critical of the Democrats because they’re the only hope for defeating the Republicans and they keep losing. Do you think babying them will make them stronger?
Being critical of the democrats is completely fine. I just happen to think that dismissing conservatives because this type of shit is expected of them is a HUGE problem- and a big reason why we’re where we are right now.
This has been my point. Not that people are critical of democrats. But that people are ONLY critical of democrats and giving conservatives a pass because thats just what they do.
Why aren’t you blaming everyone who voted for the bill? Why are you excluding the 4 dems from blame?
That seems like bs partisan hackery
I don’t squarely blame the four. I didn’t think it needed to be said but I guess this is lemmy, and apparently it needs to be explained.
If 216 people do a thing, and then 4 more people do a thing. It’s safe to say the fault of the result of the thing is squarely on the 216 people.
Especially when they were the ones to create the thing to begin with.
I don’t think I can simplify this further.
How can I explain this to you? If those few “Democrats” hadn’t voted for it, it wouldn’t have passed.
People don’t expect anything different from the Republicans, but for some reason folks have higher expectations of the Democrats, despite decades of soul crushing disappointment.
How can I explain this to you?
…And if any of the 216 conservatives hadn’t, it would have passed either. Or what about-
If it hadn’t been drafted at all, it would lot have passed.
As long as you’re blaming the fire, you’ll never see who lit the match. But I suppose that first matter anymore, so…. Go on. Have fun lynching the few while the many continue doing whatever the fuck they want.
Please simplify it more for me you are clearly so much smarter than all the rest of us. How lost we would be without you defending the Democratic party so valiantly.
More simplified? Okay.
A thing was made that hurt people.
216 grown-ups in one group are in favor of it and want it to exist. Among those 216 grown-ups are the people that made it the thing that hurt people.
4 grown-ups of another group are also in favor of it.
That you are mad at the 4 grown-ups and not even bothering to mention the 216 grown-ups that created/are in favor of it, shows that you have fallen for the distraction they would want you to pay attention to.
If it helps, you can picture being on a playground and there are 216 bullies attacking all the girls.
Now imagine four kids that aren’t usually seen as bullies join in.
What you’re doing is being angry at the four kids that aren’t usually bullies and blaming them for the hurt the girls had to endure while excusing the 216 kids for their behavior.
Stop doing this.
How about this: You’re on a battlefield facing the enemy, their entire force attacks you. 4 people from your side go to join the enemy side and help it win.
Are you letting those 4 back into camp afterwards?
Then let’s say your army’s leadership says “we have to let them back in”
Are you still trusting that leadership?
It doesn’t seem to matter what conservatives do anymore, does it? As long as there’s analogies that explain how it’s the fault of the democrats, it really seems to matter very little.
All I see is the usual to-be-expected-from lemmy “this is the democrats fault!”
Conservatives drafted the bill. BLAME THEM. 216 voted for it- BLAME THEM. Four Democrats voted for it. BLAME THEM.
I’m just sick to death of the anti-democrats propaganda when it’s the fault of conservatives that we’re here to begin with!
I’m critical of the Democrats because they’re the only hope for defeating the Republicans and they keep losing. Do you think babying them will make them stronger?
Being critical of the democrats is completely fine. I just happen to think that dismissing conservatives because this type of shit is expected of them is a HUGE problem- and a big reason why we’re where we are right now.
This has been my point. Not that people are critical of democrats. But that people are ONLY critical of democrats and giving conservatives a pass because thats just what they do.
This is how they keep getting away with it.