• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Everyone expects the scorpion to stab the frog, it’s in its nature.

    Everyone expects Republicans to be totally corrupt monsters.

    The people we are supposed to depend on to fight monsters keep helping them pass bills when they could be blocking them.

    This means they are complicit. There’s always enough traitors to make the bad things pass, never enough cooperation to make the good things pass when they have a majority.

    The Democrats have been playing this game for too long and it’s saf you haven’t started to notice too.

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      Easier to paste my response to someone else that responded with the same thing:

      I have a hard time accepting that just because, conserves are being conservatives, it’s seemingly fine that they do this shit. We’ll just all be outraged at the audacity of four idiot democrats that voted in lock-step with them.

      All of them need to be held accountable. ALL of them.

      But here, when all I see are people ignoring the villains, it makes me wonder why I ever bothered to question how we got here.

      Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do. And seeing everyone focused on holding four democrats responsible for their joint effort with 16 conservatives and not even mentioning the assholes that drew this up to begin with-

      I guess it all makes more sense now how thoroughly we are fucked.

      It’s totally Democrats fault.

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        It’s my fucking party that I’m a fucking registered member of. Don’t tell me I can’t be madder at them for literally stabbing me in the back instead of fighting my opposition like they were supposed to do.

        It’s a perfectly justified reaction to be madder at betrayal. Don’t be a clueless moron.

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          lol… okay. You can be “madder” at them all you want. Blame the democrats and not the conservatives that drew up the bill and unanimously passed it. Be my guest.

          You’re only falling for the exact thing that has enabled them to continue doing shit like this to begin with.

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              Why is it they so many of you can’t ever debate a topic without telling someone who they are, what they do, or what they think?

              Nothing at all about what you said is remotely accurate. And your little ‘what if’ scenario is laughably ignorant and meritless.

              The next time, maybe try having an argument that carries weight instead of personal attacks and wildly inaccurate assumptions.

              Jesus indeed.

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                You mean like how you go around telling people they don’t blame Republicans if they point out something Democrats do?

                I’m not telling you who you are, you are telling me who you are. Tell me how my hypothetical is not appropriate?

                That’s not how debating works. You don’t take my analogy and say “that’s meritless.” You prove it to be meritless.

                See let me spell it out for you like it’s a standardized test.

                In my analogy:

                Burglar :: Republican

                Cops :: Democrats

                Dog :: My trust

                Shooting :: voting against my interest

                Is that clearer for you?

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                  It’s meritless because it makes assumptions to prove a point.

                  And if you look back, YOU jumped into this discussion being defensive as if I was talking to you directly, then you go on to play the victim of shit I didn’t even say.

                  If you want to think this is on the democrats because four of them voted along with 216 conservatives that not only voted for it- but drafted it to begin with, be my guest.

                  I’m simply asking for the reasoning.

                  And since not one fucking person stepped up with any reasoning without personally attacking me for asking- I’m left to think that there really isn’t any reasoning amongst any of you to begin with.

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                    Reasoning was provided, you seem to be incapable of processing analogies and reasoning. You just did the same thing again. Why is it meritless? Because it’s meritless. You have none of the requirements necessary to even hold a discussion. All you do is circular nonsense.

                    Here, let me ask you a very simple question and go from there.

                    What is the job of a congressmen? In the simplest terms you can think of.

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            So someone can’t write an article about the four of them? Are there no other articles just reporting the decision? Should we not know?

            So many posts on here just blaming the right. Should there be none on how some Dems are not voting for the people?

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        Except that’s not what’s happening. The Republicans voted like you’d expect them to vote, hence not news. The so-called Democrats betrayed what their voters expected of them.

        Same reason it’s new when a small number of Republicans voted against the rest of the party and Trump.