European Union leaders will consider imposing 25 percent tariffs on a range of US imports, including steel, clothes, and food, but not bourbon or other alcoholic drinks, following US President Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on imports from the EU.

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    That windows tax sounds like a way to bring about the year of the Linux desktop and I like that idea.

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      That windows tax sounds like a way to bring about the year of the Linux desktop and I like that idea.

      I recognize the irony of “year of linux on the desktop”, but we (not only EU, I say this as someone from non-EU Europe) should not be giving the Americans money. They’ve proven that they are unreliable and unwilling to deal with corruption and degeneracy in their country. No disrespect to sane Americans, but at the end of the day they too need to make things happen.

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        For the record, I’m american. Entire current situation aside, I would prefer my chosen operating system have more support and if I can at least get that out of the destruction of the only country I’ve ever lived in I mean that’s something I guess.

        But yeah you probably shouldn’t be financing the Nazis of the 2020s that is true, and taxing people who do would probably cut down on that.

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          As I said, no disrespect to sane Americans.

          I’ve lived in the US and travelled extensively around the country (not only Manhattan and north-western part of LA), there are many sane Americans even in provincial pro-corruption hotspots.

          But until the sane Americans implement true anti-corruption, judicial and election reforms (no Obama style “hope and change” bullshit), it is reasonable to expect nothing good to come out of the US. Even if a hypothetical Michelle Obama administration takes power in the next election (which is a giant if), that’s not going to change anything until the Americans stop treating their oligarchs and criminal groups as sacred cows.

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            You’re preaching to the choir man I’ve been beating this drum with increasing volume for years. We need 20 million+ of us on the national mall demanding a new constitution and government under threat of 1789 and I don’t honestly know if that’s possible.

            Michelle Obama or any Dem won’t be taking power in 2028, if the above doesn’t happen 2028 isn’t a real election and if it does the United States Government as it currently exists doesn’t anymore so who even knows what the structure of our government will be.

            Idk don’t count on us getting our shit together, trump could literally genocide Hispanics on American soil and 1/3 of Americans would strongly approve specifically genociding Hispanics. Even if we recover from this, things will get worse for Americans as our empire crumbles, and in 40 years when I’m the boomer and my friends are all the boomers, we’ll collectively beg for the good old days we grew up in when the American Empire was still strong, and we’ll collectively vote for the new nationalists of the day to make America great again again.

            I should mention that while I’m a fan of democracy and would never want to live under another system of government I do not and have never believed democracy to be long term sustainable. Maybe I would if I lived in a real one idk but y’all still got far right problems over there in most of the former empires so idk.

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              I honestly don’t know what to say other than I wish you luck (no irony intended); it will benefit both you and me and you and our countries (and the world).

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        There’s barriers to mass adoption sure but the installation process of most distros since they all use the same GUI installer is…not it. Like I kinda just don’t believe you tbh, your comment is entirely out of line with my experience even a decade ago. Maybe in 2006 when I first installed fedora core 4.

        Like I can understand having issues using it day to day and I’m not going to tell anyone to swap operating systems, but if you can’t get Ubuntu up and running idk how you install and go through the windows OOBE.

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            You tried installing it is a VM made by Microsoft, on Windows, and blame Linux for the problems? Lol

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                It is nonsense to think that an experimental developer tool made by a company with an interest actively against Linux adoption should be easier or more stable than a standard desktop OS installation. People recommend live usbs for transitioning for this reason. Something you would know if you had done even a cursory web search, something which normal people are actually capable of, despite your contempt for them.

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                Who or what made you think WSL was meant for the masses? Enabling it is hidden deep in the settings. Just like things in windows not meant for the masses.

                Had you searched, you would have seen what is recommended for the masses that want to give Linux a spin, Linux on a USB stick. You install it using apps that are on windows. Then reboot your computer and here goes your full Linux. Take out the USB, reboot, windows again.

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            I tried installing it on win 10 WSL

            Lol what? I can’t take this conversation seriously anymore lmao. It’s like me saying windows sucks because I can’t game under qemu. Microsoft says on their own site that WSL isn’t for GUI apps and even a cursory Google search would have told you that.

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                Thing is, had you asked anyone, about their recommendation on how to try Linux, most Linux users myself included, would’ve been happy to have given you advice.

                WSL, just simply is not something to be recommended for that use case. Your stance of trying a non-recommended way to do something and reufusing the advice that tells you so, while insisting that you expect it to work that way, isn’t very sensible.

                If you want to try Linux without dedicating a machine to it, there are options.
                You can run a Live-Linux environment from a USB stick just to test the waters, you can even configure that with persistent storage to take your system with you on a keychain and run it on any computer that lets you boot from USB. Or you can go the dual-boot route.

                Those are not that hard to do (with the exception of dual-booting, Windows makes that unneccessarrly troublesome). If you can read and follow a recipe, you can manage to do that. Still it’s not something, that the average joe wants to do, I get that. But when has the average user ever bothered to install an OS? Most people buy their hardware with Windows installed and never touch it. Until we get wide spread options of OEM installed Linux machines, that will always be more convenient.

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            If you’re installing it on win 10 Windows Subsystem for Linux, then you’re installing it within windows which is not the same.

            The permissions issues you encountered would likely have been due to you accessing features managed by windows. I guess it’s possible you ran some commands you shouldn’t have, but it would be just as easy to break a windows build if you’re running random commands you don’t understand as Administrator.

            You can install ubuntu (or any other linux distro) on a usb, reboot your computer, probably mess with some bios boot-order settings, and try out an actual linux OS (and its installer), not one managed by windows. I think the bios settings are likely the biggest hangup. But I also doubt the majority of people who can’t install Linux could install Windows.

            As per driver compatibility, there’s a good chance your issues were related again to WSL, which on win10 doesn’t seem to support cuda. I barely used WSL, but I remember not having direct gpu access, completely negating the point of me upgrading to pro and allowing me to get permission from work to wipe windows.

            Anyways, I think what a lot of windows users don’t realize is how much time and energy they spent learning how to use windows and get around this or that and all the wasted hours spent troubleshooting something. So I do understand not wanting to do that all over again. But if OSX, android, and chromebooks can be turn key for your average user, I don’t think there’s anything stopping them from adapting to “Linux”.