• AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    59
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    Man, I know people dislike Macron, and I still think his handling of the Le Penn situation last year was a dramatic misplay, but I’ve always had a huge amount of respect for him. Maybe because I don’t live in France (although I was almost accepted into a job there earlier this year!), but he seems like such a role model in terms of political leadership. He’s been handling the Trump/Putin situation much better than most other world leaders, in my opinion

    • IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      ·
      3 months ago

      I think he demonstrates global leadership in a number of things, but leadership of France on a range of things including privacy is not good.

      • A_A@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        i approve at what you say, yet, i would add :
        … it might be impossible to be a loved president of a so much divided country as today’s France.

        • IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          Domestically, what has he done to be loved?

          Easy to blame the country, but no one is entitled to be loved by default.

        • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          OTOH, I don’t think we’ve ever liked any of our presidents. Their approval ratings are so abysmal that they would horryfy US politicians (where 40% is low). Macron is quite bad, but is he actually worse than the rest? We might end up regretting him when LePen gets elected in a couple years.

    • britaliope@kourjetez.bzh
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’d like him as a foreign affairs minister, eu ambassador or somewhere in the EU governing body. I think he’ll be great there.

      As a president for France, he’s definitively not and for so many reasons you qan’t list them.

    • jinarched@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Ehhh… I don’t think you would say that if you were paying close attention with how he handled opposition the couple of last years.

      For instance, he used special laws about 20 times to cripple any opositions when his party lost his majority to pass unpopular laws. They tried to make it illegal to film police and they pushed insane surveillance laws during the Olympic games that is most likely to stay. He refused to let the opposition name a prime minister even if the opposition won the legislative elections. He went against the clear will of the people regarding the age of retirement by forcing it with a special law (90% of workers were against it). Hell… he crippled public hospitals by removing beds during the Covid19 pandemic. He is a typical neo-liberal that mostly has the interest of his own social class. People really wanted him gone and he did everything in his power to stay. He’s still there because people were scared of the far right. I’m skipping so many things because there are so much mess to report I can’t actually remember it all of it on the top of my head.

      The people are so pissed about him that there are talks about the 5th republic being a failure and needing to be changed for a 6th republic.

      He has a good image on the geopolitical scene, but I would find another role model if I were you. I’m not French, but I can confidently say that he’s a lying piece of shit and most people in France hate him.

      • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Genuinely appreciate your and the other commenters’ inputs, I really did only focus on his image outside of France. Thank you for all these examples!

      • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        There’s loads of issues with Macron, but I don’t see how he’s responsible for any of the above

        The president doesn’t legislate, and he doesn’t command the police, he’s the executive head of state.

          • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            I wasn’t claiming that he hasn’t been the president of France; I did, in fact, notice.

            I said that’s not what the president of France does.

            It’s like getting mad at the King of England for Canadian laws, that’s just not his responsibility, even if he is head of state.

            • index@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              It’s like getting mad at the King of England for Canadian laws, that’s just not his responsibility, even if he is head of state.

              Yea same thing, blaming the president of france for his government policies is like getting mad at the king of england for canadian laws…

              • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                They’re both the respective heads of state, and they’re both not members of the legislative branches.

                So yeah, in this context they are effectively the same.

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    40
    ·
    3 months ago

    Russia has demonstrated it doesn’t actually desire peace so many times by now that it’s a bit pointless to mention it, really.

    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 months ago

      It still needs repeating to counter propaganda from Russia and Russia’s western supporters. If you leave propaganda unchecked, worse things tend to happen.