• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Maybe someday we’ll have people blame the DNC for choosing to back unpopular opinions/policies losing the popularity contest against

    the DNC is choosing unpopular policy? Brother this is a representative democracy. If harris wins, it’s because it was the popular policy/stances. There is literally no alternative here unless you thing there is a deep state rigging the elections or that the majority of the american populous isn’t real or something lmao.

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      the DNC is choosing unpopular policy? Brother this is a representative democracy. If harris wins, it’s because it was the popular policy/stances.

      Uhh… No. Fracking isn’t even popular as a majority position in PA where she’s pushing it. But she’s gonna anyways cause for some reason the minority is the “better” place to scrape votes from?

      And in a 2 party system if one side is “literally evil” the other basically knows they have a blank check to run on as long as it’s not the same policy as the evil side or else why would voters swap sides when evil wasn’t a disqualifier?

      We have polls that literally tell us what the popular positions are. Harris is not listening to those so whatever the reason is its not popularity.

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        Uhh… No. Fracking isn’t even popular as a majority position in PA where she’s pushing it. But she’s gonna anyways cause for some reason the minority is the “better” place to scrape votes from?

        oh im sorry i didn’t realize kamala was running for the federal presidential role of PA specifically.

        And in a 2 party system if one side is “literally evil” the other basically knows they have a blank check to run on as long as it’s not the same policy as the evil side or else why would voters swap sides when evil wasn’t a disqualifier?

        this is sort of true, but a substantial chunk of US voters believe that kamala harris is the “evil” not donald trump. so this isn’t exactly a bull in a china shop situation here. This is more like a bull vaguely around a china shop.

        We have polls that literally tell us what the popular positions are. Harris is not listening to those so whatever the reason is its not popularity.

        i mean that’s a fair statement, but she wouldn’t be running on fracking if she thought it was detrimental, so it’s either not a huge concern for most voters, or there is something more than being let on in the rhetoric here.

        At the very least we know kamala will more than likely support a real EPA, so maybe the idea is to push environmental concerns from fracking into the territory of the EPA and local areas, rather than doing a federal ban on fracking. Which i would be fully in support of. The EPA should absolutely have more power.

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          i mean that’s a fair statement, but she wouldn’t be running on fracking if she thought it was detrimental, so it’s either not a huge concern for most voters, or there is something more than being let on in the rhetoric here.

          You’re begging the question here. If Democrats paid attention to their voters we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Generally, critics of Dem strategy believe that they are too beholden to wealthy donors.

          Democrats blame Jill Stein for Clinton’s loss. But Dems can’t force her not to run again, or people not to vote for her. If Kamala doesn’t win, it will be because she didn’t convince enough people to vote for her, not because Jill Stein is running.

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            If Kamala doesn’t win, it will be because she didn’t convince enough people to vote for her, not because Jill Stein is running.

            dems absolutely can’t handle this