• hydroxide@lemmy.ml
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    What’s controversial is the depiction of Palestinians as rapists and outlining a systemic, racial, or cultural issue of rape within Arab populations, then pointing to the few instances it does occur as proof for a racist point of view.

    Both parties are guilty of rape and sexual assault. None of that is okay. However only one is being racially profiled as having an innate proclivity for rape.

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      8 months ago

      I just saw people saying the attackers raped people during the attack.

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      Nobody is saying this. It’s kind of racist to even assume people are, actually.

      Hamas raped a bunch of people on October 7th and the far left can’t handle that without making it a systemic race issue. That’s pretty fucked up.

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        You are ridiculous. First you spread misinformation about the ICJ ruling, bending what the ruling meant. Now you are trying to use a ‘no, you’ card to bend my words and pretend that there hasn’t been a racist campaign against Palestinians and Arabs for decades.

        There were likely rapes that occurred on October 7th, and there have been rapes of Israeli detained Palestinian hostages as well. How can you not see that one is now being used as a racial justification for genocide while the other is ignored.

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          You’re confusing a political justification for war against a terrorist organization with a racial justification for genocide. There are millions of arabs living in Israel, and they aren’t being killed. Not everything is systemic racism.

          And as far as your history goes you’re missing a bunch of wars the surrounding Arab countries declared on Israel. This isn’t a simple “white people bad” situation.

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            Non-Jewish Arabs in the basic laws of Israel do not have rights to self determination. Its a fucking apartheid state. Its like saying millions of native Africans lived in South Africa. These people only had a reason to attack because they live in an open air prison that mirrors a Warsaw ghetto with complete siege from their neighbor. A lot of the things they did was retaliation and a deep brewing anger. What the fuck were they supposed to do? March peacefully? Israel shot them by the thousands in 2018 when they tried to. where is your humanity?

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              And yet Israeli Muslims, and Christians too, can vote, they can become members of the Knesset, can become high level judges, can join the military.

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              Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first. They don’t have any either, where they weren’t forcibly expelled.

              Comparing pre-war Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto is so fucking outlandish that I know you’ve never actually read about it. You probably read that on Twitter and have been parroting it back. I won’t argue with you on there being apartheid, but let’s lay off the extreme hyperbole.

              And as for what they were supposed to do? Maybe lay off the terrorism and take one of the several deals they get offered once a decade. They could’ve had statehood with a fucking elevated highway connecting Gaza to the West Bank, but they turned that down. Defending a 9/11 scale terrorist attack on the basis of “what else should they have done” is frankly unconscionable.

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                Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first. They don’t have any either, where they weren’t forcibly expelled.

                What a low bar to set for a supposedly first world nation.

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                  The second world gets a pass on ethnic cleansing? What a weird policy.

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                    You are saying because Arab countries are shit to Jews, it’s okay for Israel to be shit to Arabs in their own country.

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                “Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first.” Sorry, gotta expect more out of the most moral army in the world than an eye for an eye.

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                  Who called the IDF “the most moral army in the world”? Certainly not me. However someone peddling a “white oppressor vs brown oppressed” ought to at least know the history of the region.