But, unlike reddit, you have a lot of options here. If you don’t like the way a community is moderated, start your own. If you don’t like the way a server is moderated, switch to a different one or start your own. The platform is no longer tied to a particular instance and the whims of whoever manages it.
Any given sub is only hosted on one instance, although moderators can be on other instances. I don’t know how moderation changes propagate across other instances. I hope someone else will explain that.
The tl;dr is there’s a set way of saying these specific users are allowed to send actions such as delete on these specific posts, and software that implements groups (communities, to lemmy) ideally implement it in the same way. Of course, someone could always make a software that denies all remote moderation actions for instance, so it’s always up to those implementing the AP spec.
Lemmy has a large userbase, so generally probably gets to decide a lot of these things, such as how moderators are listed when getting information on communities, and other software will have to choose to follow along to be able to work with the large userbase or raise concerns/give feedback if needed
That only applies to specific instances, or even specific communities. Just switch to a different instance or community, or make your own. If you don’t like lemmy.world, try out either exploding-heads or lemmygrad, depending which way you swing, and vice versa. Somewhere out there is the community and instance for you, and if none of them are to your taste, nothing’s stopping you from making your own - that’s the beauty of the fediverse.
Setting up an instance is not a resposibility that I want to have. I don’t wanna have to deal with trolls posting illegal shit that I will have to take care of.
And even without that, my instance could be defederated by yet another fucking moron with a log up his ass.
Well, if the moron was gonna defederate you anyways, its not like you’d ever have wanted to be on his instance and beholden to his rules. Like I said, we’ve got all sorts of instances out here - you just have to find your niche. From straight Marxist instances like lemmygrad to the exact opposite over at exploding-heads, to pirates over at dbzer0. Whatever you’re into, it’s probably here - just maybe not at lemmy.world. Try out lemm.ee or sh.itjust.works, or ask around for whatever instances fit your style. There’s even full, anti-censorship free speech absolutist instances around here if you take a look around.
You thought Reddit mods had a stick up their asses? Lemmy ones have a fucking modlog instead.
Fixed that for you!
I’m half-joking. Being completely serious now, I don’t think that censorship here is worse than in Reddit, just more visible due to features like the mod log, and lack of features like the automoderator (it’s harder to detect if you’ve been silenced if it happens automatically, based on keywords).
Censorship
You thought Reddit mods had a stick up their asses? Lemmy ones have a fucking log instead.
But, unlike reddit, you have a lot of options here. If you don’t like the way a community is moderated, start your own. If you don’t like the way a server is moderated, switch to a different one or start your own. The platform is no longer tied to a particular instance and the whims of whoever manages it.
Can’t anyone in a sub delete posts made to it, or am I confused?
I don’t think anyone can delete posts except for the poster and the moderators.
How do moderators work if there are subs which are hosted on multiple platforms?
Any given sub is only hosted on one instance, although moderators can be on other instances. I don’t know how moderation changes propagate across other instances. I hope someone else will explain that.
In the end it’s mostly an agreement on how moderation actions should and are allowed to propagate for activity pub groups, which you can learn more about here https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md#group-moderation
The tl;dr is there’s a set way of saying these specific users are allowed to send actions such as delete on these specific posts, and software that implements groups (communities, to lemmy) ideally implement it in the same way. Of course, someone could always make a software that denies all remote moderation actions for instance, so it’s always up to those implementing the AP spec.
Lemmy has a large userbase, so generally probably gets to decide a lot of these things, such as how moderators are listed when getting information on communities, and other software will have to choose to follow along to be able to work with the large userbase or raise concerns/give feedback if needed
Thanks for the explanation and for the link!
That only applies to specific instances, or even specific communities. Just switch to a different instance or community, or make your own. If you don’t like lemmy.world, try out either exploding-heads or lemmygrad, depending which way you swing, and vice versa. Somewhere out there is the community and instance for you, and if none of them are to your taste, nothing’s stopping you from making your own - that’s the beauty of the fediverse.
Setting up an instance is not a resposibility that I want to have. I don’t wanna have to deal with trolls posting illegal shit that I will have to take care of.
And even without that, my instance could be defederated by yet another fucking moron with a log up his ass.
Well, if the moron was gonna defederate you anyways, its not like you’d ever have wanted to be on his instance and beholden to his rules. Like I said, we’ve got all sorts of instances out here - you just have to find your niche. From straight Marxist instances like lemmygrad to the exact opposite over at exploding-heads, to pirates over at dbzer0. Whatever you’re into, it’s probably here - just maybe not at lemmy.world. Try out lemm.ee or sh.itjust.works, or ask around for whatever instances fit your style. There’s even full, anti-censorship free speech absolutist instances around here if you take a look around.
Fixed that for you!
I’m half-joking. Being completely serious now, I don’t think that censorship here is worse than in Reddit, just more visible due to features like the mod log, and lack of features like the automoderator (it’s harder to detect if you’ve been silenced if it happens automatically, based on keywords).