My comment doesn’t, but the OP does. Four downvotes in Beehaw is quite a lot, given the local users don’t downvote. Same thread is in the negatives in one of the cross-posts even if it’s on-topic.

And, like. I get why people would react negatively towards the product itself, but I don’t think it’s good tone to react like this towards the news being shared, you know?

People, please stop shooting the messenger. Please.

With that out of the way: I wish Mozilla didn’t waste so much money on chasing the latest trend of the season, and instead used it for its main products. Including Thunderbird. The one asking for donations.

Some years from now Thunderbolt will likely pop up in this list, of abandoned Mozilla products. Because it isn’t the result of Mozilla finding a niche to create an AI product to benefit users; it’s simply execs chasing the latest trend.

*Beehaw users are likely not seeing this, but this post has a bunch of downvotes.

That makes sense; it would be a mix of “if you can do it and I can’t, you must be cheating” and “your a bot than you’re arguement is invalid” ad hominem.

I think unnecessary combativeness might be also a factor. I’ve noticed on the internet people who want to fight against “something”, it doesn’t matter what; so they pick any low-hanging fruit they can find to fight you.

I’m actually using more those resources (em dashes, three points lists, “it’s worth noting that”, “it’s not X, it’s Y”, etc.) after AI popped up. They’re a damn good way to detect assumptive people, eager to conclude based on little to no info or reasoning; the same ones OP is complaining about. They don’t want a conversation at all, they want to whine, so if you give them a low-hanging fruit you can detect them early and block them as noise and dead weight.

That’s in my “casual” writing style, though. Professionally (as a translator) I mostly play by the tune, trying to preserve the style of the original. (Plus I barely translate things into English, it’s usually into Portuguese, very rarely Italian.)

That might not necessarily be the case – there is a possibility every example is completely organic – but it’s a sign of the times that we can’t just relax and assume the things we see and hear were made by people.

Guys, I found em dashes! The author is a bot! Bring me my pitchfork! /jk (those are en dashes, by the way.)

I think the text leaves the worst parts out: assumptions, decontextualisation, faulty reasoning, focusing on individual words instead of what they mean, and things like this. As in, issues with that part of comprehension that depends on logic, not on language proficiency.

All of those were already a problem before chatbots. But since chatbot output is really bad at those things, I think increased exposure to chatbots might make the problem worse.

That threat did not materialize, and now some apologists are saying that it was just one of Trump’s deranged bargaining tactics, as if that excuses such categorical declarations of mass violence from a US president

Even if playing along this fucking farce of “just” a “bargaining tactic” (instead of accurately representing it as commitment to war crimes), and even if we brush off all moral standards (we should not), that’s still bloody stupid. He’s making sure the Iranian population gets as motivated as possible to resist, while the United-Statian population resists against any sort of war effort. He’s shooting his own foot split hoof.

Currently, OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, xAI, Oracle and even Meta have large contracts with the US military.

That should surprise nobody. Let’s play “spot who you know”:

But this week should serve as a clarifying moment.

Aah, cut off the crap. If this is a clarifying moment for anyone, the person in question has been living under a rock since forever.

The tactic of mass destruction of homes in Gaza, where Israel has been accused of committing genocide, was described as domicide by academics, a strategy that is used to systematically destroy and damage civilian housing to render entire areas uninhabitable.

The accusation of genocide is completely accurate; domicide is only part of it. Israel’s modus operandi goes as follows:

• Make it impossible for the locals to live in the region.
• “Occupy” the region with military troops. “We’re just protecting ourselves!”
• Turn a blind eye to Israeli settlers encroaching into the region. “Noooo, the Israeli government has nothing to do with this!”
• Wait until they settle and start calling it “our land”.
• “Israeli citizens live here, so this is Israel now.”
• Try to shut off criticism through red herring, such as using a tragedy to justify another.

It’s likely what Netanyahu is doing with Lebanon, too. Nazism called it Lebensraum (“life space”, or “living space”); I don’t know how the Zionism calls it, but it’s the same deal.

Moving past the obvious slurs in your comment

I already explained why they were used, here and here.

those migrants might actually get more of a red carpet treatment - sorry to spoil your vengeful dreams.

Emphasis mine. Contrariwise to your assumption, no, I don’t dream about people getting treated like subhumans. I encourage you to actually read the comment you’re replying to, and you’ll see

…seriously, I hope not. I’m not from the belief two wrongs make a right. Immigration is part of human social behaviour since some of us left Africa; and I’m not surprised they’re leaving USA, given the current awful state of that place acc. to news.

Side note: if I wanted to write “vengeful dreams”, I’d have better targets. And I wouldn’t write something as mild (yes) as that comment.

In part because they are who they are

i.e. a society built from oppression, living from oppression, and selling it as merit.

but also because of the spoken language making it easier to get higher paid jobs […]

Okay, you clearly did not get the comment you’re answering to, so I’ll summarise:

Your typical American expects to be treated above others, as if this was a divine right granted to the United Karenland of America. And news are simply parroting this mindset, doing everything possible to not step on little Karenlanders’ toes. I’m trying to remind them that, if they get well treated, it’s because there are plenty people out there who behave like decent beings, instead of behaving like your typical American.

Now, if your depiction of Romania is accurate or not in this regard, that’s irrelevant for the sake of my original comment. But I’ll ask you the following: do the Roma folks agree with you? Technically they aren’t immigrants, but a similar situation applies. (Just like African Americans in USA.)

Side note #2: language prestige piggybacks on the power (soft and hard) associated with its speakers. And I think it’s an open secret USA is going downhill. I wouldn’t be surprised if “I’m a native English speaker!” became a liability later on.

And as a personal opinion, I think it’s wrong to put all the American migrants in the same pot.

That is not what I’m doing.

Just as a word of advice, don’t use slurs from another cultures.

I promise you sound just as ignorant and bigoted using the slurs you don’t understand.

Frankly? If there’s something sounding bigoted here, it’s your “since you’re not American I assume you’re an ignorant*, so let me enlighten you poor little thing” discourse.

I might not be a native English speaker but I’m fully aware of the offensiveness of the word in question; and it’s being used for this very reason, to highlight shit immigrants in USA go through, but emigrants from USA expect to avoid. (Ooopsie, I’m supposed to mince words and call them “expats”, right?)

And by the bloody reactions, this shite worked pretty well, innit.

*just in case: nominalisation intended.

The “I’m not racist but” introduction [SIC] did not help here.

That is not even remotely close to what I wrote in the content warning; don’t distort it.

You’re way too comfortable using the slurs you used

Don’t assume. I don’t typically use one of the words in question, except metalinguistically and when relevant to do so. I did it here because I know it makes people from a certain privileged group (Americans) uncomfortable. Note also how I am not using it to target the group it’s usually used against (Black people; they aren’t part of the problem).

And regarding “spic”, since it targets to my own group (Latin Americans), I give myself the freedom to use it.

and this whole exercise waw just unnecessary mocking of people who genuinely just want better lives

I’m not mocking anyone for wanting a better life. I’m showing what other people, who are (or were, given the current state of the things) also seeking a better life, were subjected to. “Hope you don’t need to taste your own society’s poison, and be genuinely grateful if you don’t”.

If anything I’m angry at the bloody double standard shown by the media (including this text) regarding American immigrants and immigrants in USA. And, as I said, the expectations of some Americans. “I’m American, I deserve to be treated better than those fucking spics!” (inb4 refer to what I said regarding “spic”)

You’re openly enjoying a power fantasy of denigrating people

Stop assuming. You’re making shit up about what’s inside someone else’s head, dammit. If you want to criticise what I wrote it’s fair game, but I’m not wasting my time with the next bullshit about my “comfort” or “enjoyment” or whatever.

I already stated why I did this.

trying to escape from fascism

When some people here tried to escape from fascism, guess how they were treated there?

And by “fascism” here, I don’t mean just 16 months. I mean decades, due to coups staged by USA. And people going to USA because being treated the way I represented there would be still better than “giving birth to electricity” as a political dissident.

But we don’t talk about this here, right? Noooo, only Americans (or should I say WASPs?) trying a better life.

smugly asserting yourself as superior

Okay. Third assumption = bullshit in a row. I’m not engaging further with you, go assume what the Pope is thinking.

I spelled out the actual slurs to not lessen their impact. I know plenty people from USA visit the Fediverse and this comm; I wanted them to see the sort of treatment immigrants in their country get (that goes from denial of deciding one’s own identity to dehumanisation), while reading the news shared by the OP, about when they are the immigrants in other countries. Because I’ve noticed a lot of them expect others to roll red carpets for them, when they never did the same towards the others.

In the meantime I asterisked “burger” into “b*rger” to show a bit of culture stereotypically associated with Americans being treated itself as a slur. (Cue to “spic”. Like, are we Latin Americans supposed to feel bad for… spicing our food?)

One more thing, since I’m talking about this. I focused on Latin Americans because I do happen to know people from here who live in USA; but the same applies to other groups there. East Asians, Meds (from both sides of the sea, but specially the southern one), Middle Easterners… and it goes without saying their society does the same shit towards the descendants of people they forced to live there as slaves, stigmatising even their bloody African American dialects.

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So that is the missing piece.

I was a bit bugged by Iran agreeing with the ceasefire, even if it’s clearly winning the war; it could’ve pushed itself a wee bit further, exploiting the fact USA is worn out and Israel bite more than it could chew, and then demand even more than just the ten points. “We can be better prepared for the next time the two rogue states bombard us” is a reason, but not enough on itself to do it, given the rogue states would be also preparing themselves better.

But if Netanyahu is to be condemned, the following prime minister would play an opposite foreign policy, to avoid getting trialled too. That’s yet another reason why Iran might want to stop the war, this might actually weaken one of the enemies.

I see some angry person. The good type of angry — directing his anger at the right things.

To be clear: Bode is not criticising the fact that journalists quote what CEOs say. He’s criticising the fact they do it and call it a day, as if saying “trust the CEO”.

It goes without saying that CEOs are really loud when saying what they want the sucker (you) to believe. So if that’s all you want, you need no journalist. A journalist is only useful if you want to know the factual reality; but for that they need to contextualise and challenge the claims, not just parrot them.

I’d end with some noble call for the U.S. media industry to do better, but it’s abundantly clear they don’t want to.

If it’s any consolation it isn’t just the United-Statian media.

I remember ranting about it in the past, but, basically: the page regarding Brazil is fairly accurate, you’ll find 9001 types of plugs, and a mix of 127V and 220V (no underlying plug vs. voltage pattern). It reaches a point I’ve seen people daisy chaining adapters to get their stuff working, it’s bloody hell.

Some residences have both voltages. Including mine; it’s a few 220V sockets for highly demanding appliances, and the rest is 127V.

Brazil aims to phase out the other types; see footnote. // (1) beginning January 1st, 2007 new residential, commercial and industrial wall outlet installations must comply with this new standard, and // (2) beginning August 1st, 2007 imported electrical devices must comply with NBR 14136 regulations. It is the aim to gradually phase out NEMA flat blade and Schuko devices in Brazil.

Hello, I come from the future. 19 years past 2007. The mess is still there. Try harder dammit. Prime example on how completely dysfunctional the federal government is, I bet shit would be already solved if up to the States, at least in some of them.

That’s why you should only invoke foocubi — dealing with sour demons is a pain.

…my ⟨L d α⟩ look exactly like this, but unlike whoever wrote this table my ⟨o a⟩ are indistinguishable too. And my medial ⟨s⟩ is almost indistinguishable from ⟨f⟩, both look like ⟨ʃ⟩, except ⟨f⟩ gets a horizontal stroke . My calligraphy goes from amazing to nasty depending on how much effort I take.

This isn’t even a “lie”. It’s worse than that: it’s an empty statement misleading readers to see meaning where there’s none.

Commitment is intentions. Even between human beings, you don’t know someone else’s intentions, at most what they claim about them; so there’s no way to check if the “I’m committed to $thing” claim is true or false. But to make it even worse, a company is not a human being, it is simply an abstraction, unable to have “intentions”.

So, let’s call bread “bread” and wine “wine”: people working for Microslop noticed it’s being called “Microslop”, they know why, and they’re trying to minimise brand damage — trying to convince you that Microslop does not output slop, and that the Moon is made of green cheese. That’s it.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. With enough broken clocks disagreeing with each other, the odds at least one is right are close to 100%. Only a fool would listen to any, though.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I never ditched RSS. It’s simply too convenient to keep track of multiple sites, that you want to check regularly but would be a bother to do manually. Youtube channels, anime/manga/comics sites, even the communities you moderate.

I’m glad to see people picking it up again, though. Perhaps then Liferea will see a bit more love.

The article used the word “Microslop” thirteen times. I guess the author really wants search engines and bots to associate “Microslop” with “Microsoft”. Apparently Microslop is a term for Microsoft products, or perhaps even Microslop is an intrinsic property of Microsoft.

…'kay, I’ll stop it now.

It’s rather curious how MS babbles so much about “AI”, but its Discord server uses such a simple filter that can be evaded by 0N3 0F 7H3 0LD357 700L5 0F 7H3 1N73RN37 5H17P0573R one of the oldest tools of the internet shitposter: leetspeak. It’s almost like it knows it’s selling a dud.

Also, I guess this thing run so far they don’t even care about the Streisand effect any more.