• partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
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    15 days ago

    Nobody is using Trump as permission. What’s up with the whataboutism? We live in a complicated world, of which your ‘isms do not fully encapsulate. If you can’t admit that Obama was better than Trump, you live in a shallow world my friend.

    There is a continuous spectrum of wrongfulness. Trump is absolutely, undeniably, much further down that spectrum than any other President. You often hear one of the few accomplishments Trump produced is that nobody says Nixon was the worst anymore. Well… is your argument seriously that there is no difference between Trump and Obama? Why, because of some prejudice against Neoliberalism? Get outta here.

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      Obama was better than Trump. No fucking shit. Congrats? That doesn’t mean that Obama doesn’t deserve criticism, or even deserve criticism at the same time we’re talking about Trump.

      Saying “you can’t compare Trump to Obama”, however, is shielding Obama from criticism because of Trump’s actions. There are degrees, no fucking shit, but they both belong in the Hague for war crimes. Pretending otherwise is part of the problem.

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        Hmm, maybe I missed something… because you keep acting like the argument is that Obama deserves criticism too. My point is, so what? Should we start criticizing the Grinch too, for all his wrongdoing? How about Regan and Putin — can we bring them into the discussion too?

        Did someone here actually say Obama doesn’t deserve criticism? Or, were the people here just focused on current issues?

        You really can’t compare Obama to Trump, though. It’s not a good comparison. By doing so, you’re making Obama look like a saint — good job. I think that is actually opposite to your goal. Try instead comparing Obama to someone of similar stature, where it’s obvious that Obama made some wrong choices.

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        Saying “you can’t compare Trump to Obama”, however, bla bla bla

        Funny, nobody said that in this thread. Of course you can compare Obama to Trump, and I think all participants here did that. If you’re refering to my top level comment, I deliberately phrased it the way I did. Reading comprehension?