• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    In the article you didn’t read:

    It’s too simple to reduce Mace, Greene and Massie’s loss of power to the Epstein files.

    Never change, Lemmy.

    (Edit: Not, of course, that you’d have to read an article to know that a sample size of four isn’t sufficient to connect the two.)

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      3 hours ago

      Funny, nobody accuses me of defending pedophiles because I’m not a pedo defender. It’s really not that hard to not defend pedophiles.

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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        17 hours ago
        • MTG resigned despite no obviously threatening primary challenge.
        • Boebert is running uncontested in the primary.
        • The article notes of Mace: “Mace’s incessant political attention-seeking and often-bizarre behavior might well have alienated primary voters as much as the Epstein saga.”
        • And notes of Massie: “Both Greene and Massie were bucking Trump on plenty of other things, too.”

        Like it’s clear at least Massie is gone because he went against Trump and probably Mace too, but using a sample size of four to say “Yup, it’s the Epstein files” is obviously unsound.

        The article is correct on the grounds that it is too simple to reduce it to that singular cause.

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          Massie was likely primaried for his stance on Israel. AIPAC was gloating about getting rid of him and they spent 30M to do it making it the most expensive primary in history.

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          The MTG resignation is just such a fucking unforced L on her part. Like, she had the right rallying around her. She could have been their Coo-coo-for-coco-puffs replacement for when the cholesterol eventually does its job. She probably could even have bilked over the remaining TYT and Jimmy Dore fans to her cause.

          But at the end of the day I think its about Trump and loyalty to Trump. We’re seeing it across primaries too; the reality is that actually, the “MAGA” part of MAGA aren’t particularly engaged in electoralism. “America First” represented expanded voter-ship into demographics which didn’t typically vote; so its not particularly surprising when they don’t vote in mid-terms. And if you follow RW media, Trump has fallen quite far out of favor, although you’ll see much mental gymnast-icking. And you see it in the exit data on the mid term primaries. Democrats are out-showing-up Republicans 2:1, compared to typical turnout.

          So there are a few things going on:

          1: Trump is still firmly in control of the party.

          2: The party is falling out of favor with their activist base.

          3: Republican equivalent of ABWD are still showing up, but the part of the Republican party that put Trump into power appears to have lost interest largely because of US support for Israel and the war in Iran.

          This all points further to support the thesis that Trump won’t allow free and fair elections. Because there is a real divide within MAGA/ America First right now.

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            She wanted a Senate run and Trump wouldn’t endorse her. Her moves since that and the Epstein stuff are out of spite for him and she’s coordinating with other Republicans as to not hurt their cause as a whole and burn bridges. She’s not gone yet unfortunately.