Me: “I’m not saying tolerate them, I’m saying dehumanization of any human isn’t acceptable.”
You: “Why are you Defending Nazis?”
Your responses are so far removed from what I was saying that I can’t even take it as criticism, you’ve assigned me a position I didn’t take, and are trying to take me to task over it.
Good job man, you won the argument you’re having with yourself. Kudos.
I’m not saying tolerate them, I’m saying dehumanization of any human isn’t acceptable. It’s kinda fucked that the reason y’all wanna dehumanize them is because they dehumanize others.
The first sentence qualifier doesn’t make the second sentence any less of a defense. The fact that you can’t see that is historical ignorance.
Anyway, I tried to make it clear that the problem I have is the dehumanization. And at no point did I afford them anything I wouldn’t afford literally any human.
If you take offense with me saying that humans deserve to be treated as humans, I think that says more about you than me but I admit my opinion on that is more than a little biased.
That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be dealt with in other ways. Kick them out of stores, refuse to let them take part in society, police their actions (or attempted actions.)
There are many ways to deal with them without dehumanization.
There are many ways to deal with them without dehumanization.
None that slow them down, much less stop them. They are flying swasitkas and self identifying as nazis. They clearly don’t care if they are part of “polite society”. Was the Third Reich defeated with shame? You’re playing with monopoly money here.
An eye for an eye.
Out of sight out of mind. Forcing them out of the store only means they abuse victims down the street. It’s not a solution.
Nazis don’t need an eye based provocation, their entire philosophy is based around blinding others. There is no offramp for the violence they execute since their hate and propaganda will always fuel another attack. They went to a pride parade because the mere existcane of minorities is seen as legitimate threat to the. There is no appealing to the humanity of those who gleefully call and execute violence indiscriminately.
Advocating for the humanity of Nazis is to deny the humanity of their victims.
I never said violence wasn’t an acceptable answer to their actions.
If you truly believe this, then you seriously need to drop the “kick em from the polite society” and “ask them to leave” platiudes. Because as I, and many others, have repeatedly explained to you, these thought terminating cliches only dampen actual resistance.
Which is quite literally the first step of defending bigotry. Hence why I linked Letters from Birmingham.
Look, I’m not going to sit here and list off everything I think is acceptable. The only thing I said we shouldn’t be doing is dehumanizing by killing them for existing. Literally all of the replies stemming from that was because people took issue with that stance.
You yourself took that to mean I was defending them. Others took it to mean I was simping. Others took it to mean we should be tolerant of them (despite literally saying the opposite >.>)
Admittedly, some legitimately take issue with the idea that Nazis are humans. But at least those people are actually taking issue with a point I was making.
More that you’re either not bothering to read or arguing against a straw man.
Whatever you got to tell yourself so you can justify ignoring critism. Not surprising, still disappointing.
Me: “I’m not saying tolerate them, I’m saying dehumanization of any human isn’t acceptable.”
You: “Why are you Defending Nazis?”
Your responses are so far removed from what I was saying that I can’t even take it as criticism, you’ve assigned me a position I didn’t take, and are trying to take me to task over it.
Good job man, you won the argument you’re having with yourself. Kudos.
The first sentence qualifier doesn’t make the second sentence any less of a defense. The fact that you can’t see that is historical ignorance.
An eye for an eye.
Anyway, I tried to make it clear that the problem I have is the dehumanization. And at no point did I afford them anything I wouldn’t afford literally any human.
If you take offense with me saying that humans deserve to be treated as humans, I think that says more about you than me but I admit my opinion on that is more than a little biased.
That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be dealt with in other ways. Kick them out of stores, refuse to let them take part in society, police their actions (or attempted actions.)
There are many ways to deal with them without dehumanization.
None that slow them down, much less stop them. They are flying swasitkas and self identifying as nazis. They clearly don’t care if they are part of “polite society”. Was the Third Reich defeated with shame? You’re playing with monopoly money here.
Out of sight out of mind. Forcing them out of the store only means they abuse victims down the street. It’s not a solution.
Nazis don’t need an eye based provocation, their entire philosophy is based around blinding others. There is no offramp for the violence they execute since their hate and propaganda will always fuel another attack. They went to a pride parade because the mere existcane of minorities is seen as legitimate threat to the. There is no appealing to the humanity of those who gleefully call and execute violence indiscriminately.
Advocating for the humanity of Nazis is to deny the humanity of their victims.
Kick their ass dude, punch them square in the face I don’t give a fuck.
I never said violence wasn’t an acceptable answer to their actions.
I said killing them for existing is a problem.
If you truly believe this, then you seriously need to drop the “kick em from the polite society” and “ask them to leave” platiudes. Because as I, and many others, have repeatedly explained to you, these thought terminating cliches only dampen actual resistance.
Which is quite literally the first step of defending bigotry. Hence why I linked Letters from Birmingham.
Look, I’m not going to sit here and list off everything I think is acceptable. The only thing I said we shouldn’t be doing is dehumanizing by killing them for existing. Literally all of the replies stemming from that was because people took issue with that stance.
You yourself took that to mean I was defending them. Others took it to mean I was simping. Others took it to mean we should be tolerant of them (despite literally saying the opposite >.>)
Admittedly, some legitimately take issue with the idea that Nazis are humans. But at least those people are actually taking issue with a point I was making.