• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    20 hours ago

    No, you stating it’s not a totenkopf despite the obvious evidence it’s a totenkopf just because you don’t like the agency telling you it’s a totenkopf is something I have an issue with. 😉

    If you want to apologize for Nazis, this is not the group to do that.

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      Accusing me of apologizing for Nazis while hand waiving away valid criticism of your source decisions in a day and age where misinformation is the norm is a really fascinating display of mental gymnastics.

      You should think before you post.

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        You’re the one trying to argue a Nazi symbol is not REALLY a Nazi symbol because you don’t like the Jewish organization telling you it’s a Nazi symbol.

        If you want to argue Platner was an idiot for permanently marking his body with a hate symbol he did not understand? Sure, I’d buy that, dumb people get tattoos they can’t read all the time.

        Coupling that with working for Blackwater? Sus explanation.

        But you cannot argue it’s not a Nazi symbol.

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          Zionist organization. Their religion has nothing to do with it. The fact that its the first one you grabbed from is a little Sus.

          If we are getting technical, every Nazi symbol was stolen by the Nazis and misappropriated to their cause. Their ideology was more than symbols, and that is why the “secret Nazi” moniker that is being supplied feels so manufactured, because Platner is talking about things like “Class warfare” and “socialism” in a way that is resonating with people who would have normally reflexively shunned the message 5 years ago, and the Epstein class is getting scared, because they know they are running out of ways to control the narrative.

          Also, the ADL being the arbiter of hate symbols while simultaneously supporting an ongoing Holocaust is why I reject any and all points made from or with sources quoting them as authority. I expect the institutions that I support to not be disgusting hypocrites.

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            16 hours ago

            Doesn’t matter, when it comes to identifying Nazis, the ADL is grade one, and have been since the Holocaust.

            Sorry you can’t wrap your brain around that one.

            The Totenkopf is a Nazi symbol.

            It’s used by white supremacists and neo Nazis as a hate symbol.

            Platner either stupidly or intentionally chose to have one placed on his chest.

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              16 hours ago

              This “controversy” has already been settled as a nothing-burger. Sorry you can’t wrap your head around that. Listen to his words and look at his actions and make your own judgement.

              Do whatever you need to do to cope with him winning in November.

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                15 hours ago

                It’s not about “the controversy”, it’s shooting down the bullshit statements of “Hurrr durrr, it’s not a hate symbol! It’s just like a pirate flag!”

                Fact is, I LIKE what Platner is saying, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that dumbass got a Nazi tattoo.

                You can say the right things and still be a moron, they aren’t mutually exclusive. 😉

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                  OK. Now explain how talking about this subject every. Single. Time. Is helpful or rational when this is incredibility old news at this point.

                  You can have your concerns, but it gets really close to a bad faith argument when you keep beating a dead horse. People are tired and angry over hearing nothing but bad faith arguments when their material conditions continue to worsen.

                  Graham has patiently and clearly explained his story, which has been consistent, if you actually listen to what he actually said, instead of listening to what people tell you he said. He has done it every single time without a shred of indignation over having every bad deed he has ever done strewn over the planet.

                  That, to me, shows he has principles, and the discipline to enact them as an elected representative.

                  He’s not being elected to be king of America or Americas boyfriend, this kind of shitslinging is what got us to this point, where the only people who got a say were vat grown empty suits.

                  The fact is that the “vote blue no matter who” crowd is now reckoning with the fact that they are now the ones being told to shut up and get in line because we have bigger problems than a tattoo that a guy got while wasted 20 years ago. And they are not happy about not being the ones in the drivers seat.

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                    It’s completely rational when people such as yourself attempt to deny it’s a Nazi tattoo.

                    Your rationale is irrelevant, the only excuse that’s valid is “Platner didn’t know”, but then surrounding himself with Blackwater fascists doesn’t help that case.

                    If all your buddies have Nazi tattoos, I’m sure that seems normalized.

                    The point is, no, it’s not normal to sport a Nazi tattoo and nobody should be normalizing or excusing it.