cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/world/p/1177103/idf-soldier-shot-and-killed-a-seven-month-old-baby-in-hebron-the-bullet-passed-through-h
Sam Abu Haikel was killed last night after being shot by a soldier in the Tel Rumeida neighborhood of Hebron. His parents, who were with him in the car on their way to his grandmother’s house, were also injured by the infiltration of the bullets. IDF Spokesperson Confiscated the Things But Hurried to Cover and Protect Soldiers
I’m truly not disputing your point, and I don’t assume that you support genocide as a matter of belief.
But the top level comment started with the assertion that we ‘need to erase israhell off the planet’ which is a genocide. Your point was deployed in response to someone saying, in so many words, ‘maybe we shouldn’t do a genocide because not all people of a nationality believe the same thing’.
Then you come in with, in so many words, ‘yeah, but most of them do’ - as a further reason to…not do a genocide?
What point is your comment serving other than to soften the reason not to do a genocide?
Israel is a state. Wiping it off the map does not assume genocide. Your pushing that narrative is a zionist talking point. Israel CAN be wiped off the map without murder. Will you admit to that?
Will I admit to that? What kind of question is that? Of course I will ‘admit to that’, since you’ve backed me into a rhetorical corner.
Now, since we’re admitting things. How often do you think the historical use of the term is describing a non-violent process?
Fuck Zionism, and Free Palestine but the language of erasure is just too close to genocide for my comfort, as cathartic as the thought may be in the moment, and I’m hesitant to normalize it.
Other people don’t have that sensitivity and that’s fine. You do you.
Hasbara propoganda constantly states that giving any justice at all to Palestinians for the very real and very concrete harm they have endured risks inflicting harm against Israelis born to the area. It attempts to weigh an non life threatening existential harm to a small number of Isarelis against a very severe and concrete life threatening already in flight genocide of a massive number of innocents. You just parroted that so maybe ask yourself whether you are commenting for justice or not.
Remediating a genocide only comes up so often but South Africa did it pretty well and thats the most modern addressing of a similar issue that I’m aware of. So no, I dont buy your suggestion that its a common understanding-- and even if it were (its not), its a harmful framing in this case that you shouldnt be trying to normalize to win lemmy points.
I’d love to know what you think Lemmy points are. I take the signals that are given, and so we’re done. Peace to you.
My point was concentrated on a specific part of your comment related to the number of Israelis who oppose genocide and colonialism. Distorting reality by claiming a big number of Israelis oppose it is dangerous and help Israel continuing the extermination of Palestinians . Jerusalem Day Flag March where Israelis chant death to Arab and burn Arab villages has ten thousands of people in them while counter protests have few hundreds.
I’ve had a similar comment chain to this, it seems Israeli defenders have the same argument strategy, where they try to put words in your mouth. Kind of embarrassing for them.