That’s a total fair, reasonable, and thoughtful position. I encourage you to expand that thoughtfulness just an inch more to imperialism/anti-imperialism and don’t assume that fighting for non-binary linguistics is analogous to imperialism. Like you said here, just say you don’t really understand the problem fully and since you’re an outsider you’re following the lead of the people you’ve connected with that have lived experiences. I agree you shouldn’t listen to me and my lived experiences as a cis het white anglophonic man. I will encourage you to study the academics on these topics when you do have the time and energy. We have a lot of work to do to undo the harm of our ancestors and our societies and we should continue having these discussions to ensure we are working through our own processes so we can show up more fully and more effectively to follow the lead of or siblings and allies.
Fighting for it isn’t imperialism, no; interposing myself into the discussion around how it should be done would be, which was what I was getting at. More white (ish) people telling them what they should be doing with their language isn’t what anyone needs right now, especially when the problem is the result of a thousand years of white people doing exactly that. I did use “latinix” specifically as it’s an extremely complicated subject and many people to whom the label would apply prefer alternatives but I’ll keep on happily doing what I can to support the fight… Assuming we don’t all get herded up for thought crimes in the next few weeks.
Maybe we’re talking past each other. Spanish is a white language. Latin is a white language. It’s exactly as white as English. It’s totally fine for white people to tell other white people to wrestle with undoing the harm of the oppression that white people caused.
Just because non-white people also speak it doesn’t mean it’s not a white language. Jamaicans speak English. Haitians speak French. Arubans speak Dutch.
That’s a total fair, reasonable, and thoughtful position. I encourage you to expand that thoughtfulness just an inch more to imperialism/anti-imperialism and don’t assume that fighting for non-binary linguistics is analogous to imperialism. Like you said here, just say you don’t really understand the problem fully and since you’re an outsider you’re following the lead of the people you’ve connected with that have lived experiences. I agree you shouldn’t listen to me and my lived experiences as a cis het white anglophonic man. I will encourage you to study the academics on these topics when you do have the time and energy. We have a lot of work to do to undo the harm of our ancestors and our societies and we should continue having these discussions to ensure we are working through our own processes so we can show up more fully and more effectively to follow the lead of or siblings and allies.
Fighting for it isn’t imperialism, no; interposing myself into the discussion around how it should be done would be, which was what I was getting at. More white (ish) people telling them what they should be doing with their language isn’t what anyone needs right now, especially when the problem is the result of a thousand years of white people doing exactly that. I did use “latinix” specifically as it’s an extremely complicated subject and many people to whom the label would apply prefer alternatives but I’ll keep on happily doing what I can to support the fight… Assuming we don’t all get herded up for thought crimes in the next few weeks.
Maybe we’re talking past each other. Spanish is a white language. Latin is a white language. It’s exactly as white as English. It’s totally fine for white people to tell other white people to wrestle with undoing the harm of the oppression that white people caused.
Just because non-white people also speak it doesn’t mean it’s not a white language. Jamaicans speak English. Haitians speak French. Arubans speak Dutch.