• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Fellas, is stabbing someone five times to kill them after they filmed you and you didn’t like what they were saying, “self-defense”?

    On the evening of 3 December 2025, some time before 11:30 pm, Nowak (victim) was walking in the area of Belmont Road in the Portswood suburb of Southampton.He had been drinking at the Hobbit Pub but he was under the drink-drive limit.

    Nowak then began filming Vickrum Digwa. Video recovered from Nowak’s phone captured him saying “Hello car” and singing to himself before yawning, while Digwa walked away from him. Nowak continued: “Innit bad man, what bad man. You’re a bad man, say you’re a bad man, go on.” Digwa, still walking away in the Snapchat video, replied: “I am a bad man” Digwa inflicted five “stab wounds or cuts” on Nowak, with the 21-centimetre (8.3 in) Kirpan, a Sikh ceremonial knife he was carrying, including a fatal wound to the chest and additional wounds to his legs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Henry_Nowak#Murder

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      4 hours ago

      Yes that is indeed self-defense and will be found as such in any country that isn’t the UK. Even the US isn’t this stupid, and that’s saying something.

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        Lol, that doesn’t even apply in the US. You’re always going on about this thing called “freedom of speech”.

        Perhaps try educating yourself on what that means?

        Please describe in the detail which one of the victims actions necessitated him being stabbed five times various locations?

        The guy didn’t even use expressions that could be construed as “fighting words” and even if he did, that wouldn’t necessitate being stabbed over it. Wouldn’t hold up even in US court.

        In the U.S., the general rule is that “[a] person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another.”[1] In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm.[2] When the use of deadly force is involved in a self-defense claim, the person must also reasonably believe that their use of deadly force is immediately necessary to prevent the other’s infliction of great bodily harm or death.[3] Most states no longer require a person to retreat before using deadly force. In the minority of jurisdictions which do require retreat, there is no obligation to retreat when it is unsafe to do so or when one is inside one’s own home.[4]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(United_States)#General_rule

        So what was it, specifically?