The Gush Etzion Regional Council has acknowledged ritualistic child abuse allegations within its communities following investigations and survivor testimonies, shaking Israel's religious-Zionist sector.
That’s my point. Maybe there were “satanic” ritualistic abuse cults, maybe not. But it seems increasingly likely there have been Zionist ritualistic abuse cults for a long time. Their pentagram a… hexagram?
I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture
I still don’t know if I can make a generalization that it’s because Israelis are predominantly of a faith and therefore are cultish, and by extension likely to be abusers within the faith. In the end, a majority of Israelis are not religious and don’t subscribe to religious doctrine.
So I agree with your second paragraph:
I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture.
And because of how sadistic and toxic the culture is, it’s even more apparent in the spinoff cults.
I think it’s more the case that relatively inward-looking communities (for example, religious cults or factions) enable abuse by being suspicious of outside authority and opposing accountability for their leaders. Instead, they close ranks and try to hide their problems. That may mean solving them themselves, or more often, protecting the perpetrators and laying on the denial.
It’s a depressing fact that child abuse happens everywhere. There’s a certain, probably irreducible, percentage of any population who are sick, evil scum who prey on the vulnerable. The only question is whether the problem is confronted or hidden. In that way, Israeli culture is no different than that anywhere else.
And for groups like this it makes perfect sense that many would see reporting it and publicizing it as having a risk of hurting the group as a whole, victim included. You try internal means of dealing with the issue if you can, or you try warning potential victims, or you just try to move on.
It’s one of the reasons it’s so bad to associate groups with unrelated crimes and heinous acts.
The massive problem with this ritualised csa is that it is deliberately conscripting people who aren’t that way inclined to participate to benefit the depravities of a few and presumably provide blackmail powers. This is vastly different from covering up for rogue individuals in power dynamic, it is deliberately much more damaging to everyone involved, even normalised, and it provides extremely strong obedience. There is a presumption of no possible outside authority in this scenario by those involved, by design. I would hope that this is unusual at this level of seniority within a culture, but I have my doubts.
That’s my point. Maybe there were “satanic” ritualistic abuse cults, maybe not. But it seems increasingly likely there have been Zionist ritualistic abuse cults for a long time. Their pentagram a… hexagram?
I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture
I still don’t know if I can make a generalization that it’s because Israelis are predominantly of a faith and therefore are cultish, and by extension likely to be abusers within the faith. In the end, a majority of Israelis are not religious and don’t subscribe to religious doctrine.
So I agree with your second paragraph:
And because of how sadistic and toxic the culture is, it’s even more apparent in the spinoff cults.
I think it’s more the case that relatively inward-looking communities (for example, religious cults or factions) enable abuse by being suspicious of outside authority and opposing accountability for their leaders. Instead, they close ranks and try to hide their problems. That may mean solving them themselves, or more often, protecting the perpetrators and laying on the denial.
It’s a depressing fact that child abuse happens everywhere. There’s a certain, probably irreducible, percentage of any population who are sick, evil scum who prey on the vulnerable. The only question is whether the problem is confronted or hidden. In that way, Israeli culture is no different than that anywhere else.
And for groups like this it makes perfect sense that many would see reporting it and publicizing it as having a risk of hurting the group as a whole, victim included. You try internal means of dealing with the issue if you can, or you try warning potential victims, or you just try to move on.
It’s one of the reasons it’s so bad to associate groups with unrelated crimes and heinous acts.
The massive problem with this ritualised csa is that it is deliberately conscripting people who aren’t that way inclined to participate to benefit the depravities of a few and presumably provide blackmail powers. This is vastly different from covering up for rogue individuals in power dynamic, it is deliberately much more damaging to everyone involved, even normalised, and it provides extremely strong obedience. There is a presumption of no possible outside authority in this scenario by those involved, by design. I would hope that this is unusual at this level of seniority within a culture, but I have my doubts.