I watched a travel documentary made in the 90s and, through it, it was already apparent the west was fomenting fascism in Ukraine.
First Bandera statue was erected in Lviv in 1992
Lol that’s probably when this documentary tool place.
Check out Eric Hobsbawms documentary on the Vienna Bratislava train line, he also predicted the rise of ultra nationalism in Europe in the 1990s.
They’ve been doing it since '45
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“Anyone who disagrees with me isn’t human”
You people have just all become Dr Strangelove
We’re all paid by the Kremlin to influence this obscure underwater basket weaving forum.
As goes Lemmy, so goes the world. 👀
So the Russian invasion continues to make things in Ukraine worse? kk.
The invasion was instigated by the USA they wanted Russia to invade because they thought they could easily be defeated and they could topple Putin’s regime. The United States worked for years for regime change in Ukraine, supported leftists (mostly naive anarchists) and nationalists to destabalise any government that favored Russia over the west.
Any regime that dares to stand up to the United States is an enemy. Any leftist who supports any war that NATO supports is either a fool or a willing propagandist for imperialism. The Ukrainian people don’t deserve what’s happening to them, but they should be just as angry at the western puppets as they are at Russia.
why would the US want to replace Putin, it was the US that helped his rise to power.
Russia opposes many foreign policy projects in the middle east and other places. Syria and many other examples. Russia really doesn’t play ball.
And this probably isn’t a reason for “them” but personally I hate Putin’s Russia for spreading first climate denial and for decades not agitprop propaganda and supporting fascist actors in many European countries. Our neoliberal for-profit plutocrat owned social media network have had a massive negative effect on democracy, mostly because actors like Russia use the opportunity that profit oriented social media isn’t going to pay for moderators or detecting botnets.
I would have much preferred peace instead of the US and Nato instigating the Ukraine war (Russia simply had no choice but to attack, imagine what the US would do with a China aligned Mexico) but it’s not really like I give a shit about Putin’s Russia. It’s just that neither the Ukrainians or Russian people deserve to suffer and die, or how much wealth is transferred for this stupid war, or the long term negative consequences of a radicalized fascist Ukraine will have on Europe, or the complete conformism of all “left” media and leftists denial or reality. Anyways
Because he stopped playing ball, that’s all it takes for the US to want to overthrow you.
in what way specifically?
https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/sj32jtl6876pd8aaeb23y7pzxbyrrp
When I was young, I remember talks about Russia joining NATO. We decided we needed an adversary and the MIC and the construction sector and banks love destroying countries so they can rebuild them.
So Russians stepped into an american trap by invading a neighboring country with which they have signed a peace treaty and gave security guarantees to?
States worked for years for regime change in Ukraine, supported leftists (mostly naive anarchists)
Lol.
The Ukrainian people don’t deserve what’s happening to them, but they should be just as angry at the western puppets as they are at Russia.
Correct me if Im wrong but its Russians sending a nightly bombardment of their homes?
The matter of NATO enlargement was discussed in detail and explicit assurances of non-enlargement to the East were given by Germany to the Soviet leaders — and then were broken. Germany was the principal beneficiary of those assurances, which were the quid pro quo for Germany’s reunification. Yet as early as 1993, German leaders began to promote the violation of those assurances.
Second — Chancellor Merkel’s own testimony. In her memoirs, Angela Merkel writes with striking candor that she understood at the time of the 2008 Bucharest Summit that inviting Ukraine and Georgia into NATO would be tantamount to a declaration of war on Russia. She knew Russia’s red line. And yet she gave in to American pressure, accepting the compromise communiqué that Ukraine and Georgia „will become“ NATO members. That single sentence set in motion the catastrophes of 2014 and 2022. Merkel’s later candor is a gift to her successors: she has told you, plainly and in her own words, what was understood at the time. Germany should not now pretend otherwise.
Third — the betrayal of the February 21, 2014 agreement. On 21 February 2014, in Kyiv, Germany’s then–Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, together with his Polish and French counterparts, brokered an agreement between President Yanukovych and the opposition. The agreement provided for a return to the 2004 constitution, the formation of a national-unity government, and early presidential elections. President Putin was consulted; the agreement was confirmed. It was a serious diplomatic achievement under conditions of intense violence. Yet within twenty-four hours Yanukovych was forcibly overthrown by a violent coup. Germany did not insist on the agreement it had just guaranteed. Instead, following the U.S. lead, Germany backed the new government, as if there had been no agreement in place. That decision persuaded Moscow that Western signatures could not be trusted.
Fourth — Minsk II. In February 2015, Chancellor Merkel personally negotiated Minsk II in the Normandy Format and pledged Germany’s political backing through the Declaration of Support adopted in Minsk on 12 February 2015. For seven years, the key political provision — autonomy for the Donbas regions within a sovereign Ukraine — was never implemented by Kyiv. Germany did not press Kyiv to implement the autonomy provision it had championed — and Merkel later acknowledged that the agreement had been used as a holding action to allow Ukraine to rearm. President Hollande said the same. The guarantee, in other words, was not a guarantee at all. It was a stratagem — once again at Washington’s behest. Once again, the message to Moscow was that Western signatures cannot be trusted.
Fifth — Nord Stream. On 7 February 2022, in the East Room of the White House, President Biden announced — with then-Chancellor Olaf Scholz standing beside him — that „if Russia invades… then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.“ Asked how, he replied, „I promise you, we will be able to do that.“ The pipelines were destroyed seven months later in an act of sabotage in the Baltic Sea. The available evidence — investigative reporting in the United States and Germany, the trail followed by the German federal prosecutor, and the public statements of former officials — points overwhelmingly to a joint Ukrainian-American operation. The German government has long known this. And yet Germany has permitted the public blame to fall on Russia, against the direct evidence, while an act of industrial sabotage against the German economy has gone unprosecuted and unanswered.
Sixth — the April 2022 Istanbul agreement that was within reach. Just weeks after Russia’s invasion in February 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators converged in Istanbul on the terms of a peace agreement: Ukrainian neutrality outside NATO, multilateral security guarantees, agreed troop limits, and the political resolution of the Donbas and Crimea questions over time. The agreement was within days of signature. Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, one of the mediators, has confirmed publicly that the deal was close and that the West — the United States and the United Kingdom in particular — moved to block it. Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s mission to Kyiv in April 2022 to instruct Ukraine not to sign is a matter of public record. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives, and the wider European order, have paid the price for that US–UK intervention. Germany has not raised its voice on this — even though Germany, more than any other European state has borne the economic consequences.
https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/sj32jtl6876pd8aaeb23y7pzxbyrrp
So Germany was again collaborating with Russia against the will of central and eastern European states and Russia gives itself the right to determine what they do? We have been invaded by the Russian empire before, just as well as the Prussian.
Not what I posted.






