Lets just notice and remember how many people here were not only cheerleading the decision, but literally demanding that he run. They were telling us we were crazy to not want the incumbent to run.
I took a lot of abuse when I was calling for him to step down when it was fucking obvious he was going to get trounced. Harris was a shit choice but she still did way better than he would have.
DNC snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as usual. They’re complicit.
still do get a lot of abuse, some chode above in this thread is still saying we all misremembered and it was a slight gaffe that had been there all along
If Harris was going to be the candidate she needed to face a robust primary, like any Democrat should. It’s not just about understanding the candidate but about forcing them to be better in hard positions.
Harris was garbo in the 2020 primary. Did she even get a single delegate?
Even with that, Harris could have easily won if she would have ignored blue Maga and the third way crowd. If she would have let Walz be Walz. If she would have leaned into being the party of the left instead of trying to be diet republican.
Fucker knew he had uncureable cancer and still fucking ran. If he just done as he promised an only did the one term. We could had a primary and maybe had a candidate that would got people out to vote.
Of course Trump as admitted as much that all the machines in key states were rigged in his favor. So we might still loss. But at least we had a chance. Instead he tried and fail and thought they could just stick us with Harris. And goddammit she could have won if she shifted from Israel and fought for progressive vote instead of pivoting right instead.
Of course Trump as admitted as much that all the machines in key states were rigged in his favor.
Thank you for saying this. I feel like sometimes I am the only person in the world who remembers that Trump said out loud that Musk “knows about voting machines better than anybody”. Like, isn’t that suspicious? I understand that the Democrats ran a bad campaign, but to lose in every single swing state after Trump had already been president once and was grossly unpopular at the end of his first term, there has to be something more to it than just her stance on Israel/Gaza and not running a primary.
And of course, the Dems take the high road and don’t demand investigations so that they avoid comparisons to election deniers on the right that ceaselessly parroted baseless conspiracies throughout Biden’s term. Almost as if it was planned all along…
I want to believe that my fellow Americans aren’t collectively stupid enough to actually pick Trump a second time. I really, really want to believe.
But he got backstabbed, and democrats instead tried to shove an unpopular, unwanted woman down our throats, against trump, again, because it went so well the first time.
Weird how people never want to blame the people actually responsible.
He was polling almost as bad as Trump is polling now. In December of 2023. They were objectively losing before the primary even started. December, 2023, Biden’s net approval was -16. No incumbent wins with a net -16 the December before the race. It just doesn’t happen.
Stop trying to gaslight history.
The people responsible for Trumps victory are the Biden team, the Harris team, and everyone that has made excuses for them along the way.
They were “objectively losing” because the media did everything in its power to twist everything Biden did into a catastrophe and induced some kind of mass delusion that Biden was a doddering fool who wet himself and walked around in a daze doing nothing all day, while bending over backwards and tying itself into knots to keep from reporting anything but the most sanitized shit about Trump.
Objectively Biden was doing great, and he had made incredible gains turning the country back around after Trumps first disaster of a presidency, and I very seriously doubt we’re gonna get so lucky as to have another person that capable coming in the second time around to unfuck everything again
You are fully detached from reality. Please stay away from politics so we can use the electoral system, if its still even possible, to stop fascism. Your involvement wont be productive.
He would have gotten absolutely crushed, it would have been a landslide of embarrassing proportions. I don’t know what you’re smoking, but I want some. Harris was utterly wrong for the time, but she made a showing. The DNC brass are to blame for throwing the election.
Harris could have won, but she made two massive mistakes: she was nearly invisible during Biden’s presidency, and she campaigned for Republicans, alienating many voters. She should have taken a more progressive stance and not campaign with Cheney and CEOs.
So glad Joe and his handlers felt he should run for a second term.
That decision just worked out fabulously. So happy about it.
Lets just notice and remember how many people here were not only cheerleading the decision, but literally demanding that he run. They were telling us we were crazy to not want the incumbent to run.
I took a lot of abuse when I was calling for him to step down when it was fucking obvious he was going to get trounced. Harris was a shit choice but she still did way better than he would have.
DNC snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as usual. They’re complicit.
still do get a lot of abuse, some chode above in this thread is still saying we all misremembered and it was a slight gaffe that had been there all along
If Harris was going to be the candidate she needed to face a robust primary, like any Democrat should. It’s not just about understanding the candidate but about forcing them to be better in hard positions.
Harris was garbo in the 2020 primary. Did she even get a single delegate?
Even with that, Harris could have easily won if she would have ignored blue Maga and the third way crowd. If she would have let Walz be Walz. If she would have leaned into being the party of the left instead of trying to be diet republican.
Fucker knew he had uncureable cancer and still fucking ran. If he just done as he promised an only did the one term. We could had a primary and maybe had a candidate that would got people out to vote.
Of course Trump as admitted as much that all the machines in key states were rigged in his favor. So we might still loss. But at least we had a chance. Instead he tried and fail and thought they could just stick us with Harris. And goddammit she could have won if she shifted from Israel and fought for progressive vote instead of pivoting right instead.
Thank you for saying this. I feel like sometimes I am the only person in the world who remembers that Trump said out loud that Musk “knows about voting machines better than anybody”. Like, isn’t that suspicious? I understand that the Democrats ran a bad campaign, but to lose in every single swing state after Trump had already been president once and was grossly unpopular at the end of his first term, there has to be something more to it than just her stance on Israel/Gaza and not running a primary.
And of course, the Dems take the high road and don’t demand investigations so that they avoid comparisons to election deniers on the right that ceaselessly parroted baseless conspiracies throughout Biden’s term. Almost as if it was planned all along…
I want to believe that my fellow Americans aren’t collectively stupid enough to actually pick Trump a second time. I really, really want to believe.
Me to young voters trying to decide which senior citizen with one foot in the grave they have to decide between:
Power is the ultimate drug
It probably would have worked out fabulously.
But he got backstabbed, and democrats instead tried to shove an unpopular, unwanted woman down our throats, against trump, again, because it went so well the first time.
Weird how people never want to blame the people actually responsible.
He was polling almost as bad as Trump is polling now. In December of 2023. They were objectively losing before the primary even started. December, 2023, Biden’s net approval was -16. No incumbent wins with a net -16 the December before the race. It just doesn’t happen.
Stop trying to gaslight history. The people responsible for Trumps victory are the Biden team, the Harris team, and everyone that has made excuses for them along the way.
They were “objectively losing” because the media did everything in its power to twist everything Biden did into a catastrophe and induced some kind of mass delusion that Biden was a doddering fool who wet himself and walked around in a daze doing nothing all day, while bending over backwards and tying itself into knots to keep from reporting anything but the most sanitized shit about Trump.
Objectively Biden was doing great, and he had made incredible gains turning the country back around after Trumps first disaster of a presidency, and I very seriously doubt we’re gonna get so lucky as to have another person that capable coming in the second time around to unfuck everything again
You are a fascinatingly delusional individual. No part of the Biden admin did well, by any conceivable measure.
Sure buddy.
You are fully detached from reality. Please stay away from politics so we can use the electoral system, if its still even possible, to stop fascism. Your involvement wont be productive.
Yeah, I’m the one detatched 🙄
Thanks, acknowledgement is the first step towards transformation.
Sure buddy.
No worries. Thanks for doing your part.
He would have gotten absolutely crushed, it would have been a landslide of embarrassing proportions. I don’t know what you’re smoking, but I want some. Harris was utterly wrong for the time, but she made a showing. The DNC brass are to blame for throwing the election.
Harris could have won, but she made two massive mistakes: she was nearly invisible during Biden’s presidency, and she campaigned for Republicans, alienating many voters. She should have taken a more progressive stance and not campaign with Cheney and CEOs.