It isn’t worth running a candidate that can’t win just because they have a platform like what hasn’t won you the seat in living memory.
A bunch of Republican voters are disillusioned libertarians who want to be free to live their lives and would rather government work effectively if it’s going to exist at all. Mamdani style socialists who run government like a grown up have at least as good a chance as some empty suit who votes with dems but talks like a republican.
You weren’t talking about the merits of progressive vs moderate policy though, and neither was @[email protected], this conversation is about the electability of progressives vs moderates in red districts. Do you concede that progressives are just as electable in red districts as moderates if not more so? Pivoting when you’re losing an argument rather than conceding the point is a sneaky thing to do.
La Raja said moderates typically do better in contested districts, but that doesn’t necessarily mean progressives will cost Democrats victory in November—though they could get “washed out” in future elections.
Balancing the budget by collecting monies already owed and taxing social bads is a pretty damn good idea even if the whole “city owned grocery store” thing flops.
New York leaders are desperately trying to stop billionaire bigwigs from hightailing it out of the Big Apple with their cash, businesses and thousands of jobs — as fears mount that Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s policies will accelerate the Empire State’s nation-leading loss of wealth.
The splashy one-two punch of Citadel CEO Ken Griffin and Apollo Global Management honcho Marc Rowan pledging to expand outside New York City has been coupled with a silent wave of businesses “quiet quitting” the city over its hostile environment, insiders told The Post.
1: the NY Post is a tabloid generally worth ignoring.
2: A tabloid story saying unnamed “NY Leaders” want what billionaires want should be treated as nothing more than a statement of preference for what the tabloid’s (billionaire) owners want.
3: Even if Mamdani suddenly gets on his knees and grovels for billionaires to stay it wouldn’t argue that billionaires staying is a good thing.
Not at all. “Lying” is a very high bar that most tabloids are able to easily stay under.
I infer that the names you mentioned are NYC billionaires who threatened to leave. And that it’s only a threat at this point. But it wouldnt even call them telling the Post that they want to leave as a lie–even though I suspect they aren’t going to actually go.
Let me restate my position clearly. Billionares are a drain on any society and improve nearly everyplace by leaving. What NYC might lose in hypothetical income tax from two billionaires moving elsewhere is more than made up by the reduction in competition for everything that poor NYers need to survive.
It isn’t worth running a candidate that can’t win just because they have a platform like what hasn’t won you the seat in living memory.
A bunch of Republican voters are disillusioned libertarians who want to be free to live their lives and would rather government work effectively if it’s going to exist at all. Mamdani style socialists who run government like a grown up have at least as good a chance as some empty suit who votes with dems but talks like a republican.
It is too early to make a conclusion on Mamdani’s policies.
You weren’t talking about the merits of progressive vs moderate policy though, and neither was @[email protected], this conversation is about the electability of progressives vs moderates in red districts. Do you concede that progressives are just as electable in red districts as moderates if not more so? Pivoting when you’re losing an argument rather than conceding the point is a sneaky thing to do.
From https://www.newsweek.com/is-the-progressive-tea-party-here-how-democrats-midterm-war-is-unfolding-11973815
La Raja said moderates typically do better in contested districts, but that doesn’t necessarily mean progressives will cost Democrats victory in November—though they could get “washed out” in future elections.
Balancing the budget by collecting monies already owed and taxing social bads is a pretty damn good idea even if the whole “city owned grocery store” thing flops.
The problem is that large taxes will encourage the wealthy to leave New York City.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
From https://nypost.com/2026/05/08/us-news/ny-leaders-desperately-try-to-stop-billionaire-bigs-from-fleeing-city-over-mamdani/
New York leaders are desperately trying to stop billionaire bigwigs from hightailing it out of the Big Apple with their cash, businesses and thousands of jobs — as fears mount that Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s policies will accelerate the Empire State’s nation-leading loss of wealth.
The splashy one-two punch of Citadel CEO Ken Griffin and Apollo Global Management honcho Marc Rowan pledging to expand outside New York City has been coupled with a silent wave of businesses “quiet quitting” the city over its hostile environment, insiders told The Post.
1: the NY Post is a tabloid generally worth ignoring.
2: A tabloid story saying unnamed “NY Leaders” want what billionaires want should be treated as nothing more than a statement of preference for what the tabloid’s (billionaire) owners want.
3: Even if Mamdani suddenly gets on his knees and grovels for billionaires to stay it wouldn’t argue that billionaires staying is a good thing.
Are you saying that the NY Post is lying when it said Griffin and Rowan plan to leave NYC?
Not at all. “Lying” is a very high bar that most tabloids are able to easily stay under.
I infer that the names you mentioned are NYC billionaires who threatened to leave. And that it’s only a threat at this point. But it wouldnt even call them telling the Post that they want to leave as a lie–even though I suspect they aren’t going to actually go.
Let me restate my position clearly. Billionares are a drain on any society and improve nearly everyplace by leaving. What NYC might lose in hypothetical income tax from two billionaires moving elsewhere is more than made up by the reduction in competition for everything that poor NYers need to survive.