Ya know what we need? Like a citizenship exchange program. It’s so goddamn hard to get passports and work permits and move out internationally.
What if, we could just tradsies with someone else from another country? Like, they wanna move to America… I wanna gtfo, so they take my place and I take theirs? Everyone’s happy.
no, obviously I’ve done literally nothing and not tried to get all my documents and paperwork in order for myself and family, with stepchildren… and then after having not done any “figuring it out” I just came to the conclusion that it was a kafkaesque deluge of bureaucracy… obviously I made my prior statement after only imagining the experience…
I see. Well, I worked as an academic in Europe for many years and so have spoken to non-EU colleagues (many of them with families) about their experiences. There is bureaucracy to be sure, but as long as you have a valid reason to move (study or work, usually), it’s not too bad. We’ve had people moving over within a few months of being offered a position, and these were usually people from Asia, for whom it can be more difficult than US citizens.
Citizenship? That’s a whole different ballgame. Residency is not hard (if you can work/study), citizenship depends on the country and can be quite difficult to get. Though having said that, it’s generally easier than in the US, and in some EU countries it is almost automatic after 5 years of residency. (No citizenship at birth though.)
Most EU countries do not have green card quota or any kind of similar system. The main obstacle, for those for whom studying isn’t an option and family reunification doesn’t apply, is finding an employer willing to hire you over a local. Studying is definitely the easiest way, and can in fact be a lot cheaper than dealing with US tuition fees for institutes of similar quality.
Ya know what we need? Like a citizenship exchange program. It’s so goddamn hard to get passports and work permits and move out internationally.
What if, we could just tradsies with someone else from another country? Like, they wanna move to America… I wanna gtfo, so they take my place and I take theirs? Everyone’s happy.
Is it? Have you tried figuring out what is necessary for it?
no, obviously I’ve done literally nothing and not tried to get all my documents and paperwork in order for myself and family, with stepchildren… and then after having not done any “figuring it out” I just came to the conclusion that it was a kafkaesque deluge of bureaucracy… obviously I made my prior statement after only imagining the experience…
I see. Well, I worked as an academic in Europe for many years and so have spoken to non-EU colleagues (many of them with families) about their experiences. There is bureaucracy to be sure, but as long as you have a valid reason to move (study or work, usually), it’s not too bad. We’ve had people moving over within a few months of being offered a position, and these were usually people from Asia, for whom it can be more difficult than US citizens.
I guess the person I knew who got citizenship in Denmark was lying when they claimed it was difficult /s
Citizenship? That’s a whole different ballgame. Residency is not hard (if you can work/study), citizenship depends on the country and can be quite difficult to get. Though having said that, it’s generally easier than in the US, and in some EU countries it is almost automatic after 5 years of residency. (No citizenship at birth though.)
Most EU countries do not have green card quota or any kind of similar system. The main obstacle, for those for whom studying isn’t an option and family reunification doesn’t apply, is finding an employer willing to hire you over a local. Studying is definitely the easiest way, and can in fact be a lot cheaper than dealing with US tuition fees for institutes of similar quality.