Lots of layoffs (“re-evaluating our operational footprint”) and switching to “agentic” processes. Target user is AI.

Anyone still hosting Gitlab?

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    Oh god that is so cringe. Just getting into coding i have no idea what to use as an online repo. I dont want to use github because microsoft but i want the basic repo collaboration features to be available cloning, pull requests, issues etc.

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        Isnt codeberg centralized? I worry it will run into the same issue as github. I was checking out Radicle but its cryptic and hard to search for other projects.

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          Codeberg is supporting forgejo which Codeberg is built on. Forgejo is ActivityPub powered git repositories. So imagine regular git, but everyone can have their own repos on their own sites and you can still interact with each other. So yes, Codeberg is centealized FOR NOW. But they’re working on opening it up to EVERYONE to run their own and be able to access all the repos you use over the Fediverse.

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          It’s funny coming from the Plex thread into this; ~100% of people who keep using Plex do so because it’s centralised and it makes sharing their library with their network of family and friends easier.

          The truth is; a lot of us feel like we need more internet accounts about as much as we need genital warts. Part of the reason GitHub got successful was the fact that you only needed to register once and you had access to fork and PR all the repos on there.

          Decentralisation is great for self hosting things for, well, yourself and your household, but it’s got hefty downsides. Account creation is a friction point for others to join and collab.

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          Even if, switching your used repo hosting service is a matter of minutes if you’re using git. You register on the other site, add your SSH key, update the remote URL of your repository which is just a git remote set-url origin <new url> and then hit git push, probably with something like --force or another option, kinda forgot the exact name. So that’s something you could easily automate in like 10 lines of bash script for all your repositories.

          It’s super hard to “trap” people in something like github because git is so open and decentralized. Switching is super easy. Most people who stay on github or gitlab do it because they need the CI/CD pipelines or because they’re lazy and/or stupid.

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              Those are all part of the forge, not git.

              • A git migration is easy.
              • Forge migration usually requires some form of migration tool to get all the forge specific stuff (like issues, PR’s and todos).

              The 2 are very different things.

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                And what kind of service is gitlab, which we are discussing here, or github which was brought up in the comment, or codeberg?

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                  They are forges.

                  I think the comment of migrating git, was more for smaller and maybe private projects. Not large collaborations. So only the git part, not the forge part.

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            When I read this discussion on HackerNews they act like they’re trapped and it would require moving the sun and the earth to switch over.

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          Its centralized, but they (forgejo, the underlying software) are building on standards wherever possible so it should be easy enough to move things around. I also don’t really see them breaking bad anytime soon, at some point you have stop worrying and start to build shit.

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          Oh sorry, I might have misunderstood your question. Yes, Codeberg is centralised, but it is registered at a public e.V. in Germany making it more open (not a company).

          But then you could use what they use, Forgejo to self host.

          Or Gittea as suggested by somebody else.

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      For a beginner, I’d probably stick to Github initially, just because there’s so many guides and tutorials on how to use it, and their free plan is still pretty generous.

      A lot of the knowledge is transferable though. If you do want to try something else, Codeberg is pretty good for open-source.

      To just learn about Git, you don’t even need a host like Github or Codeberg. You can have a Git repo just on your computer, and still get a bunch of the benefits of source control - a full history of everything, separate branches and worktrees so you can have multiple incomplete changes and switch between them, etc.

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        Or Forgejo, which is a fork of Gitea and is what Codeberg uses. They explain their advantages over Gitea here: https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/

        The tl;dr is that Forgejo is maintained by a non-profit whereas Gitea is maintained by a for-profit company, and Forgejo is completely open-source whereas Gitea is open-core with some features only available in their hosted service. Forgejo also has better testing and a bigger focus on security.

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          Oh dang I didn’t realize! Thank you!! I was just starting to look at those things myself and wanted to also avoid GH. Plus Gitea was available on Yunohost too. I’ve heard of Codeberg, I’ll see if I can host that instead. It’s too bad other companies don’t move away from GH…