Bullshit. Europe was ready to help Russia after they became a democracy, and gave up their occupations in Europe. It was Russia that ruined it completely and one sidedly.
After Putin took over, he very quickly began to do stuff that is inconsistent with cooperation, yet Europe tried to continue cooperation, because the European sentiment is that cooperation is the best way to become more friendly.
But Putin sabotaged it completely, sabotaging European politics, and performing war crimes against former Soviet states.
Taking Crimea in 2014 should have been the end of this cooperation, but even after that, Europe tried to continue to work with Russia.
It wasn’t until Russia invaded Ukraine that cooperation with Russia was finally ended. And it wasn’t until a couple of years ago, that politicians openly acknowledged that Russia has been interfering in European elections.
India is holding a double standard when they cooperate with Russia, and still blame Europe for colonialism despite European countries have abandoned it. And especially EU which has a treaty that requires respect for human rights.
How many countries have accepted human rights to a degree that they have to respect a foreign court on human rights issues?
ALL EU countries have done that!!
Europe was ready to help Russia after they became a democracy
Reagan sent neocon fanatics to Russia, which led to uncontrolled privatization in which ownership of billion-dollar entities fell into the hands of the mafia, the security apparatus and Yeltsin’s cronies. That set the stage for the current Russian kleptocracy under Putin. Europe helped former Warsaw Pact states far more than it did Russia, though there was some limited cooperation with Russia as well.
Generally speaking, the EU leadership has been overly cautious (as you said) in calling out Russian imperlism and its interference in European politics in general, and has been weak in enforcing sanctions on Russia. And signing up to treaties on human rights doesn’t seem to have prevented EU states from mass surveillance, or (in the case of Hungary under Orban, among other states) of undermining citizens’ right to vote, gay rights, or protection from state bullying.
As for India, Modi would love to be the Putin of southern Asia, and nothing would make him happier than a genocide against Indian Muslims.
Collapse of USSR was engineered by western powers which included EU. Yeltsin was very dear to washington and brussles, and the economic policies he adopted on the behest of World bank and IMF (primarily europe dominated institutions) led to death of approx 12 million russians and formation of the kleptocracy that brought putin in power.
Personally I belong to a place which had been a colony of France, and we do have a genial feeling towards France/French. It’s British towards whom we have that colonial master kind of feeling. Goa had to be freed through army intervention from Portugal, but no ill feeling towards Portugal today.
The British were extremely brutal in India, and I can understand that India doesn’t feel comfortable cooperating with UK, especially on for instance defense.
But UK is not in EU anymore, and still India seems to have that anti European sentiment, as if it was Europe and not UK that were the colonists.
Anyways I just find it sad that India prefer to cooperate with Russia, A country that today is clearly worse than Europe and China.
Not siding with USA however, has turned out to be a very good choice. USA has turned to absolute shit, and is extremely unreliable.
If you look at the headline, you would understand that Modi is a showman. If you believe that lndia is not siding with the USA, then probably you don’t have a proper understanding of the dynamics. You don’t need to be a student of international relations to see that a new world order is emerging. 7 days would have been a long time for the US to finish off the job in the middle east, yet what’s the situation today ??
Talking about defense per se, it’s simply a means to captivate and control the common people. You just need to glance at a map of south asia to question Bangladesh’s need to arm up. Are you aware of the news that a Chinese fighter jet had broken down in the air and killed several children ?? Why does Bangladesh need to invest in an airforce ???
It was very clearly an occupation, and as soon as the Soviet Union showed weakness, all eastern European countries left the Warsaw pact, and almost all sought membership of EU.
Russia had military intervention in several European countries when their people rebelled against the communist party in their country. But when the Soviet Union was collapsing itself, all the European countries seized the opportunity, and got rid of the communist regimes.
So not realizing that it was an occupation is denial of the truth.
It wasnt really. There is no proof that suggests that communism was unpopular in east. Ofcourse all those countries were taken over by liberal nationalists so they will obviously join EU
Most of those “rebels” were communist themselves, also it wasnt russia but soviet union, call it what it is. It wasnt occupation but an ideological alliance based on socialism, much like the EU is based on bourgeoisie liberalism
There is no proof that suggests that communism was unpopular in east.
There absolutely is a ton of evidence, the fact that Russia had to move in several time to protect the Communist regimes should be enough. But also the wide spread use of secret police, to keep the population politically controlled, the absolute oppression of anything politically different from Communism.
And the extreme rebirth of Christianity that was also oppressed by communism is also a very strong indicator of how unpopular Communism was.
The way Communism was removed in ALL eastern European countries and in the Soviet states too is an extremely clear indicator.
Most of those “rebels” were communist themselves
Obviously they were when that was the only option, but as soon as an alternative was made available they became former communists.
also it wasnt russia but soviet union
Russia was the main power in Soviet Union, just like Russia is the main power in the Russian Federation. The other regions don’t really have much say.
It wasnt occupation but an ideological alliance based on socialism,
No it was not, In Eastern Europe it was a military occupation by the Soviet Union of German held territories, where the Soviet Union instated communist governments, and the countries became vassal states to the Soviet Union, and the Soviet union interfered if the people of any of the countries tried to change that.
IDK how anyone can be so blinded by Russian propaganda, and yes I do mean Russian, because the Soviet Union was a Russian controlled empire, just like the Russian federation is today. You don’t even have facts straight that are extremely easy to check up on, you are either a victim of Russian propaganda, or a propagandist yourself.
What you are claiming is outright delusional.
Not really, even america maintains its military bases worldwide to contain capitalism, its just ideological battle. Secondly what people did after collapse of soviet union has nothing to do with what were their opinion on socialism during its existence. CIA and NATO carried out operation gladio to systematically sabotage communist parties in west, that included funding far right terror groups and assassinating communist leaders. So much for free liberal democracy huh.
Communism should ideally be the only option.
Those communist government had support of their people, its pretty evident if you know how those states functioned. Whole western hemisphere was/is vassal state of America, you should worry about that. Imagine being an anti communist and thinking youre not propagandized lmao, your entire worldview is shaped by american media propaganda. USSR was domninated by ukrainians if you check the leadership roles. It wasnt an empire (and even if it was one, it was good).
Bullshit. Europe was ready to help Russia after they became a democracy, and gave up their occupations in Europe. It was Russia that ruined it completely and one sidedly.
After Putin took over, he very quickly began to do stuff that is inconsistent with cooperation, yet Europe tried to continue cooperation, because the European sentiment is that cooperation is the best way to become more friendly.
But Putin sabotaged it completely, sabotaging European politics, and performing war crimes against former Soviet states.
Taking Crimea in 2014 should have been the end of this cooperation, but even after that, Europe tried to continue to work with Russia.
It wasn’t until Russia invaded Ukraine that cooperation with Russia was finally ended. And it wasn’t until a couple of years ago, that politicians openly acknowledged that Russia has been interfering in European elections.
India is holding a double standard when they cooperate with Russia, and still blame Europe for colonialism despite European countries have abandoned it. And especially EU which has a treaty that requires respect for human rights.
How many countries have accepted human rights to a degree that they have to respect a foreign court on human rights issues?
ALL EU countries have done that!!
Reagan sent neocon fanatics to Russia, which led to uncontrolled privatization in which ownership of billion-dollar entities fell into the hands of the mafia, the security apparatus and Yeltsin’s cronies. That set the stage for the current Russian kleptocracy under Putin. Europe helped former Warsaw Pact states far more than it did Russia, though there was some limited cooperation with Russia as well.
Generally speaking, the EU leadership has been overly cautious (as you said) in calling out Russian imperlism and its interference in European politics in general, and has been weak in enforcing sanctions on Russia. And signing up to treaties on human rights doesn’t seem to have prevented EU states from mass surveillance, or (in the case of Hungary under Orban, among other states) of undermining citizens’ right to vote, gay rights, or protection from state bullying.
As for India, Modi would love to be the Putin of southern Asia, and nothing would make him happier than a genocide against Indian Muslims.
I don’t know how to copy a line from the main comment, otherwise l would have copied the concluding paragraph.
And what does that have to do with Europe?
Collapse of USSR was engineered by western powers which included EU. Yeltsin was very dear to washington and brussles, and the economic policies he adopted on the behest of World bank and IMF (primarily europe dominated institutions) led to death of approx 12 million russians and formation of the kleptocracy that brought putin in power.
Personally I belong to a place which had been a colony of France, and we do have a genial feeling towards France/French. It’s British towards whom we have that colonial master kind of feeling. Goa had to be freed through army intervention from Portugal, but no ill feeling towards Portugal today.
The British were extremely brutal in India, and I can understand that India doesn’t feel comfortable cooperating with UK, especially on for instance defense.
But UK is not in EU anymore, and still India seems to have that anti European sentiment, as if it was Europe and not UK that were the colonists.
Anyways I just find it sad that India prefer to cooperate with Russia, A country that today is clearly worse than Europe and China.
Not siding with USA however, has turned out to be a very good choice. USA has turned to absolute shit, and is extremely unreliable.
If you look at the headline, you would understand that Modi is a showman. If you believe that lndia is not siding with the USA, then probably you don’t have a proper understanding of the dynamics. You don’t need to be a student of international relations to see that a new world order is emerging. 7 days would have been a long time for the US to finish off the job in the middle east, yet what’s the situation today ??
Talking about defense per se, it’s simply a means to captivate and control the common people. You just need to glance at a map of south asia to question Bangladesh’s need to arm up. Are you aware of the news that a Chinese fighter jet had broken down in the air and killed several children ?? Why does Bangladesh need to invest in an airforce ???
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It was very clearly an occupation, and as soon as the Soviet Union showed weakness, all eastern European countries left the Warsaw pact, and almost all sought membership of EU.
Russia had military intervention in several European countries when their people rebelled against the communist party in their country. But when the Soviet Union was collapsing itself, all the European countries seized the opportunity, and got rid of the communist regimes.
So not realizing that it was an occupation is denial of the truth.
It wasnt really. There is no proof that suggests that communism was unpopular in east. Ofcourse all those countries were taken over by liberal nationalists so they will obviously join EU
Most of those “rebels” were communist themselves, also it wasnt russia but soviet union, call it what it is. It wasnt occupation but an ideological alliance based on socialism, much like the EU is based on bourgeoisie liberalism
There absolutely is a ton of evidence, the fact that Russia had to move in several time to protect the Communist regimes should be enough. But also the wide spread use of secret police, to keep the population politically controlled, the absolute oppression of anything politically different from Communism.
And the extreme rebirth of Christianity that was also oppressed by communism is also a very strong indicator of how unpopular Communism was.
The way Communism was removed in ALL eastern European countries and in the Soviet states too is an extremely clear indicator.
Obviously they were when that was the only option, but as soon as an alternative was made available they became former communists.
Russia was the main power in Soviet Union, just like Russia is the main power in the Russian Federation. The other regions don’t really have much say.
No it was not, In Eastern Europe it was a military occupation by the Soviet Union of German held territories, where the Soviet Union instated communist governments, and the countries became vassal states to the Soviet Union, and the Soviet union interfered if the people of any of the countries tried to change that.
IDK how anyone can be so blinded by Russian propaganda, and yes I do mean Russian, because the Soviet Union was a Russian controlled empire, just like the Russian federation is today. You don’t even have facts straight that are extremely easy to check up on, you are either a victim of Russian propaganda, or a propagandist yourself.
What you are claiming is outright delusional.
Not really, even america maintains its military bases worldwide to contain capitalism, its just ideological battle. Secondly what people did after collapse of soviet union has nothing to do with what were their opinion on socialism during its existence. CIA and NATO carried out operation gladio to systematically sabotage communist parties in west, that included funding far right terror groups and assassinating communist leaders. So much for free liberal democracy huh.
Communism should ideally be the only option.
Those communist government had support of their people, its pretty evident if you know how those states functioned. Whole western hemisphere was/is vassal state of America, you should worry about that. Imagine being an anti communist and thinking youre not propagandized lmao, your entire worldview is shaped by american media propaganda. USSR was domninated by ukrainians if you check the leadership roles. It wasnt an empire (and even if it was one, it was good).