Where are these men? I’ve never met one. I know men who hates some particular women but never anyone who hates all of them. Perhaps hate isn’t the best word to describe what you actually mean here.
Men who hate women in generally will usually keep it to themselves in public for the most part. They’re not going to go on a tirade about how much they hate women to someone they don’t think is going to disagree with them, which might explain why you’ve not seen it personally.
And have you seriously never heard of incels? I’m not saying hating women is inherent to inceldom, but it’s pretty damned pervasive among them. Especially in online spaces.
Men who hate women in generally will usually keep it to themselves in public for the most part. They’re not going to go on a tirade about how much they hate women to someone they don’t think is going to disagree with them, which might explain why you’ve not seen it personally.
Exactly this. Misogynists don’t talk about that shit with men who they don’t already know share the same views. They are universally fragile and insecure. They don’t want their beliefs challenged especially not by another guy. The way it works is, if they don’t know you they will say something that teeters on the edge of misogyny without being egregious enough that they will get called out for it. If you entertain whatever they say then they’ll start going mask off around you because they know you’re “safe”. If they get rebuffed then they keep the mask on around you.
I’ve known a couple of guys where various women have said that they were sexist creeps but I never got that from them. But in hindsight for both of those guys I remember an interaction where they would say something about a woman or women in general which just verged on inapropriate withough going into “dude wtf” territory. Both times I essentially just gave them a weird look and they never got near that line with me again.
This is why most guys don’t see misogyny nearly as often as women do. When a misogynist “tests the waters” with another guy they do it in a way that is subtle enough to seem entirely innocuous in the moment.
Andrew Tate is around women all the time. He actively seeks their company even. That’s not what someone who “hates all women” would do. That’s why I’m saying that hate isn’t probably the best term here. You’re talking about something else.
Saying “I’ve never met a man who hates all women, only specific ones” is not the same as a racist saying “I hate all black people except a few good ones.”
The first is observing that blanket hatred of an entire sex is rare. The second is still expressing racial hatred while making a token exception. Equating the two is a false equivalence that dodges the actual point.
Where are these men? I’ve never met one. I know men who hates some particular women but never anyone who hates all of them. Perhaps hate isn’t the best word to describe what you actually mean here.
Men who hate women in generally will usually keep it to themselves in public for the most part. They’re not going to go on a tirade about how much they hate women to someone they don’t think is going to disagree with them, which might explain why you’ve not seen it personally.
And have you seriously never heard of incels? I’m not saying hating women is inherent to inceldom, but it’s pretty damned pervasive among them. Especially in online spaces.
Here’s some reading if you can be bothered.
https://reporter.anu.edu.au/all-stories/misogynistic-mass-violence-is-on-the-rise-why-are-we-ignoring-it
https://womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/warren-farrell-mens-rights-movement-feminism-misogyny-trolls/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/mens-rights-movement-spreads-false-claims-about-women/
Exactly this. Misogynists don’t talk about that shit with men who they don’t already know share the same views. They are universally fragile and insecure. They don’t want their beliefs challenged especially not by another guy. The way it works is, if they don’t know you they will say something that teeters on the edge of misogyny without being egregious enough that they will get called out for it. If you entertain whatever they say then they’ll start going mask off around you because they know you’re “safe”. If they get rebuffed then they keep the mask on around you.
I’ve known a couple of guys where various women have said that they were sexist creeps but I never got that from them. But in hindsight for both of those guys I remember an interaction where they would say something about a woman or women in general which just verged on inapropriate withough going into “dude wtf” territory. Both times I essentially just gave them a weird look and they never got near that line with me again.
This is why most guys don’t see misogyny nearly as often as women do. When a misogynist “tests the waters” with another guy they do it in a way that is subtle enough to seem entirely innocuous in the moment.
Seriously? The entire manosphere hates women. They view them as entirely transactional.
Andrew Tate is around women all the time. He actively seeks their company even. That’s not what someone who “hates all women” would do. That’s why I’m saying that hate isn’t probably the best term here. You’re talking about something else.
Thats like a racist saying that there are some good blacks
Saying “I’ve never met a man who hates all women, only specific ones” is not the same as a racist saying “I hate all black people except a few good ones.”
The first is observing that blanket hatred of an entire sex is rare. The second is still expressing racial hatred while making a token exception. Equating the two is a false equivalence that dodges the actual point.