• Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
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    12 hours ago

    In case you only read the headline, Germany of course does not ban Soviet symbols during those commemorations.
    Berlin police has announced that they will not allow showing those symbols at 4 specific locations within Berlin during protests.

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    Gentle reminder that 80% nazis were k!lled by the red army, no amount of suppression or history revisionism by capitalists will change or diminish the sacrifices of soviet people.

    Long live the red army, army of proletarian of the world!

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      Remember that Ukraine was part of the Red Army. One of the Soviet units attacking Berlin was 1st Ukrainian Front.

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      The sacrifice and courage of Soviet soldiers in the face of Nazi aggression is profound and worthy of admiration, yes.

      Should be noted that Stalin was a Hitler-enabler and early ally, or at least subtle collaborator, leading up to the onset of the war. The western democracies should have done a better job of building a coalition with Stalin in the thirties, but failed, hoping appeasement and hand-wringing would do the trick instead.

      Soviet soldiers also invaded Finland around that time and were complete assholes there, even if they did get their asses handed to them by a numerically-inferior, but fierce fighting source. It’s sad that most of the slaughter was inflicted upon Ukrainian conscripts who probably didn’t actually give a shit about annexing Finland.

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        There was nothing subtle about the collaborative invasion of poland

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          To say they “collaborated” by using Poland as a battleground is dishonest.

          In the end that was clearly an agreement on when/where the war would begin, as Poland was somewhat Nazi-aligned (but not part of the Nazi project) and the Soviets knew it’d be better to have them as an unwilling buffer than to see them completely allied with Germany.

          Make no mistake, they sent their armies there to fight each other to the death.

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        16 hours ago

        but failed, hoping appeasement and hand-wringing would do the trick instead.

        I have read that both the USSR and the West had hoped that Germany would fight the other so that they could beat the weakened winner. Is that true?

      • Tolc@lemmy.worldOP
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        16 hours ago

        Should be noted that Stalin was a Hitler-enabler and early ally, or at least subtle collaborator

        lie, western “democracies” refused to ally with stalin against hitler hoping hitler will destroy communism (he kinda did too).

        And ukrainians are not some divine angels who would think differently from all soviet republics somehow. They were part of the red army and soviets thought shifting the border away from important city like leningrad, I am not defending invasion of finland I think it was a net negative but maybe that invasion saved leningrad afterall.

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      15 hours ago

      And what percentage of the red army was Ukrainians, Georgians, Armenians, Azeris, Khazakhs, etc? russofascist revisionism and appropriation is cancer too.

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        They shouldve looted more stuff

        imagine calling addition of smoke for dramatic effect as propaganda