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    Homeassistant is cool though. Also most of my stuff would work without it, they just works better with it.

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      None of the devices I bought for it talk to the internet! Home assistant can control and even update the Shellys completely over the local network.

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          Remember Home assistant =/= smart home nonsense

          I dont need some AI assistant to automatically manage my thermostat, I just want to be able to control it all using my own local server.

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        I’ve been looking for some smart outlets, and it seems impossible to discover which ones can be used with normal well-known protocols and which can only be used through a phone app locked into a cloud service.

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    I always loved the saying, “The ‘S’ in IoT stands for security.”

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    Well I have smart devices and a thermostat. Thermostat is awesome but local control only through home assistant and rest of the house is all zwave and ZigBee no internet required.

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    OK here’s one why do we assume someone working in tech is knowledgeable in tech. Its a job. I have met many network maintainers for companies who seem like they know nothing. I have met many support staff who don’t know their bass from a home in the ground. Just because by outwork in the field does not mean you are an expert on everything or even the thing you do. And this doesn’t just apply to tech

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      Oh no, google / alwxa should be shot in the face, don’t mistake that.

      And never trust any “smart” appliance that doesn’t work without internet access.

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    I agree when it comes to most “smart” home devices. However, I wired an ESP32 to my heat pump for remote control and automation, which has been absolutely fantastic. Also, I use a ton of ZigBee and zwave, since those are not “smart” by themselves and are local-only.

    It’s the cloud bullshit that always breaks and spies on users that I hate.

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      Yeah home built and programmed smart devices are the way to go. I’m addicted to the rush of making dumb appliances automated.

      The smartphone controlled aircon for $150 extra? Slap a $4 Esp in that. $400 to get sleek control of your central heating? $4 Esp. Turn on the ice maker on the commute home? You guessed it, $4 Esp.

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        Where the hell are you getting 4 ESP. And no its not good for everything. I buy zwave switches and water sensors.

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          $2 is a normal price on Aliexpress for an Esp32 C3 super mini, $4 is almost expensive

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    In Spanish, we have a saying: “En casa de herrero, cuchara de palo”.
    A rough translation would be “in the blacksmith’s house you’ll find wood spoons”. It’s not a new thing, it’s been like that since ancient times.

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      Yeah but I doubt that saying has ever been used to mean the blacksmith thinks metal spoons are bad. Right?

      It’s worth sharing but this post is more about the software engineer knows how much shit is spying on you.

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      “The cobbler’s kids have no shoes” in English.

      But this guy is saying he doesn’t trust technology not to spy or be vulnerable.

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      Is that the same thing? The impression I get is that OPs post is about the IT worker actively distrusting smart tech. While I assume your example is more that the blacksmith doesn’t bother with making metal spoons for himself and using what ever he had already, which would be more comparable to a network engineer still using the ISPs shitty router.

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        We use it when, for any reason, a person who could easily use something related to their field, doesn’t use it. What it means is that if someone who could be using something because they know how it works, isn’t using it, there must be a reason.

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          Ahh, the impression I got is that one makes it sound like they are avoiding it because they can’t be bothered to while the other actively avoids it because its bad.

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            I think that is the most “correct” interpretation of it. Maybe they’re saying that it’s been bent over time.

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        Wooden spoons are better for cooking with cast iron pots and pans, which a blacksmith, being knowledgeable about metal, would be vey aware of.

        Just as the it person is way more aware of the pitfalls of smart tech than your average person

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          Sure but what us the downside? It us a huge field with everything from local to requiring the cloud. You can’t blanket it all together.

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      That ks for sharing this, this is fascinating.

      Maybe the underlying rule is: the more you know about something, the more you are aware of its flaws, making the alternatives you know less about more attractive?

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    The dev I know who’s most into home automation using cloud services has also fallen the hardest for “AI will build all systems and nothing will go wrong with that”. Honestly, I should become a cyber criminal in this climate.

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    “no smart home crap” except smart home “crap” can be quite secure today… but please go on.

    (80% of my smart home “crap” runs firmware I compiled, communicates only with a local server and have no internet access)

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        That’s exactly what I want to do! I saw a post some years ago, someone had connected a ~ESP32 (or the like) to their coffee maker, connected it to the WiFi and made an app to remote controll it.

        I want to do something similar. Prepp the coffee in the evening, set a time for the machine to start and then have fresh coffee when I wake up. I realise that I could just do all of this and just press the button when I wake up instead, but the idea of this makes me happy.