Wanting grapes is an intrusive thought. Your body and the gut biomes are creating that thought (with the threat of discomfort), and putting it in your brain. Your thoughts are not you. You react to them.
No, the latter is not any more or less intrusive than the first.
If you want to talk about clinically intrusive thoughts, they’re persistent, reoccurring and relentless, not just a random spooky thought that pops into your head - everyone has those, and most people move on from them.
“Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, involuntary, and often disturbing images, urges, or ideas that pop into the mind unexpectedly. They are generally unsettling, violent, sexual, or taboo, yet they do not reflect a person’s actual desires, character, or intentions. While often harmless, they can cause distress or indicate anxiety, OCD, or trauma.”
“gee I want grapes” - not intrusive, even if unexpected.
“Gee I should swerve into incoming traffic” - intrusive
Wanting grapes is an intrusive thought. Your body and the gut biomes are creating that thought (with the threat of discomfort), and putting it in your brain. Your thoughts are not you. You react to them.
No, the latter is not any more or less intrusive than the first.
If you want to talk about clinically intrusive thoughts, they’re persistent, reoccurring and relentless, not just a random spooky thought that pops into your head - everyone has those, and most people move on from them.
“Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, involuntary, and often disturbing images, urges, or ideas that pop into the mind unexpectedly. They are generally unsettling, violent, sexual, or taboo, yet they do not reflect a person’s actual desires, character, or intentions. While often harmless, they can cause distress or indicate anxiety, OCD, or trauma.”
https://nesslabs.com/pink-elephant-paradox
Everyone has those. Again, clinically speaking intrusive thoughts need to be persistent.