Who would had thought it wouldn’t help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It’s almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that’s why they aren’t mentioned)
I’ve lived in a couple of countries in Europe and in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain (though that seems to be changing with all the transphobia popping up over there nowadays).
Certainly American Nationalism isn’t welcome and the (pseudo-)religious crap doesn’t land well here either nowadays (it’s funny how in the XXI century the US is the closest to a Theocracy of all Western nations whilst in the rest religiouness has been seriously dampened by Universal Education).
Only the anti-immigration talk goes does well with supporters of the local Far-Right around here.
Further, I suspect that the side-effects of America’s and Israel’s attack on Iran are switching people of from Islamophobia - except perhaps in the UK the local Press just isn’t anywhere as unified in using Manufacturing Consent techniques to spin America and Israel as the good guys fighting the evil “Regime” in Iran, so people seem to be blaming America and Israel for all this shit rather than Iran.
Last but no least, there’s not really any MAGA over here, so from hearing and seeing him talk on TV people have an almost universal opinion of Trump as a disgusting liar because he’s constantly and very obviously contradicting himself and his body language just shouts sleazy asshole and for people without the mindset of constantly coming up with excuses for him of the True Believer, Trump just looks like a slimy shity loudmoth.
in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain
Well, Orban was in power for 16 years. Fico and Babiš are still in power, as is Meloni, though so far she’s been staying within the EU and her power seems to be waning after her referendum to capture the judiciary was rejected by voters. So anti-immigrant hard-right thuggery still wins elections in some EU countries, though they seem to be on the wane.
And as for Britain: in England, it looks like Reform (the fascist party led by Farage, who constantly parrots MAGA talking points) will take over leadership of quite a few councils in next month’s local elections, despite their record of corruption, failure and incompetence in the few councils they currently control. Their polling isn’t as high as initially predicted, but Labour’s support has collapsed and the Conservatives are dead in the water too. The Greens are also polling well, but they’ve had to scale up rapidly and haven’t yet demonstrated national reach, though in the region of England where I live, they have a fairly good chance of replacing Labour as the majority party in our county and city councils. As for the LibDems, they remain small but will probably maintain their vote share due to good local organisation.
In Scotland, it’s still the SNP. In Wales, Plaid Cymru looks like it’ll take over.
The big unknown in England is whether Labour can stop the rot, break the control of the Labour Together faction and replace Starmer with a soft-left PM. I’m not at all optimistic. Even if they ditch him, the parliamentary party is brain-dead enough to choose Streeting as their next leader. He’s as authoritarian and corporation-friendly as Starmer, and even more slimy.
My point isn’t that there isn’t a Far Right in Europe or that it’s small, it’s that most of the Far Right dog-whistles from America don’t work in Europe.
Present day Europeans rarelly care about all the “God talk”, they don’t overly care about Homosexuality or Transsexuality and they certainly don’t think America is a Great Nation.
Absolutelly, the anti-immigration discourse goes down really well here (in fact, it’s the core of the Far-Right ideology in Europe), but beyond that what exactly is the part of the American Far-Right discourse which would make Europeans be more interested in that side of politics beyond what the Far-Right discourse of the local politicians already does.
IMHO, the biggest impact of America on the Far-Right in Europe is the money they give to the Far Right in Europe rather than an ideological foundation.
Who would had thought it wouldn’t help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It’s almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that’s why they aren’t mentioned)
I’ve lived in a couple of countries in Europe and in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain (though that seems to be changing with all the transphobia popping up over there nowadays).
Certainly American Nationalism isn’t welcome and the (pseudo-)religious crap doesn’t land well here either nowadays (it’s funny how in the XXI century the US is the closest to a Theocracy of all Western nations whilst in the rest religiouness has been seriously dampened by Universal Education).
Only the anti-immigration talk goes does well with supporters of the local Far-Right around here.
Further, I suspect that the side-effects of America’s and Israel’s attack on Iran are switching people of from Islamophobia - except perhaps in the UK the local Press just isn’t anywhere as unified in using Manufacturing Consent techniques to spin America and Israel as the good guys fighting the evil “Regime” in Iran, so people seem to be blaming America and Israel for all this shit rather than Iran.
Last but no least, there’s not really any MAGA over here, so from hearing and seeing him talk on TV people have an almost universal opinion of Trump as a disgusting liar because he’s constantly and very obviously contradicting himself and his body language just shouts sleazy asshole and for people without the mindset of constantly coming up with excuses for him of the True Believer, Trump just looks like a slimy shity loudmoth.
Well, Orban was in power for 16 years. Fico and Babiš are still in power, as is Meloni, though so far she’s been staying within the EU and her power seems to be waning after her referendum to capture the judiciary was rejected by voters. So anti-immigrant hard-right thuggery still wins elections in some EU countries, though they seem to be on the wane.
And as for Britain: in England, it looks like Reform (the fascist party led by Farage, who constantly parrots MAGA talking points) will take over leadership of quite a few councils in next month’s local elections, despite their record of corruption, failure and incompetence in the few councils they currently control. Their polling isn’t as high as initially predicted, but Labour’s support has collapsed and the Conservatives are dead in the water too. The Greens are also polling well, but they’ve had to scale up rapidly and haven’t yet demonstrated national reach, though in the region of England where I live, they have a fairly good chance of replacing Labour as the majority party in our county and city councils. As for the LibDems, they remain small but will probably maintain their vote share due to good local organisation.
In Scotland, it’s still the SNP. In Wales, Plaid Cymru looks like it’ll take over.
The big unknown in England is whether Labour can stop the rot, break the control of the Labour Together faction and replace Starmer with a soft-left PM. I’m not at all optimistic. Even if they ditch him, the parliamentary party is brain-dead enough to choose Streeting as their next leader. He’s as authoritarian and corporation-friendly as Starmer, and even more slimy.
My point isn’t that there isn’t a Far Right in Europe or that it’s small, it’s that most of the Far Right dog-whistles from America don’t work in Europe.
Present day Europeans rarelly care about all the “God talk”, they don’t overly care about Homosexuality or Transsexuality and they certainly don’t think America is a Great Nation.
Absolutelly, the anti-immigration discourse goes down really well here (in fact, it’s the core of the Far-Right ideology in Europe), but beyond that what exactly is the part of the American Far-Right discourse which would make Europeans be more interested in that side of politics beyond what the Far-Right discourse of the local politicians already does.
IMHO, the biggest impact of America on the Far-Right in Europe is the money they give to the Far Right in Europe rather than an ideological foundation.
That’s true, but in every important EU-level vote, Hungary was the inflamed pimple on EUs ass, I truly hope this will change now.
trump seem to have no use for vance inside the us apparently.
Trump’s definitely been setting up Vance for failure lately, as Rubio kisses his ass.