• phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    8 hours ago

    in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain

    Well, Orban was in power for 16 years. Fico and Babiš are still in power, as is Meloni, though so far she’s been staying within the EU and her power seems to be waning after her referendum to capture the judiciary was rejected by voters. So anti-immigrant hard-right thuggery still wins elections in some EU countries, though they seem to be on the wane.

    And as for Britain: in England, it looks like Reform (the fascist party led by Farage, who constantly parrots MAGA talking points) will take over leadership of quite a few councils in next month’s local elections, despite their record of corruption, failure and incompetence in the few councils they currently control. Their polling isn’t as high as initially predicted, but Labour’s support has collapsed and the Conservatives are dead in the water too. The Greens are also polling well, but they’ve had to scale up rapidly and haven’t yet demonstrated national reach, though in the region of England where I live, they have a fairly good chance of replacing Labour as the majority party in our county and city councils. As for the LibDems, they remain small but will probably maintain their vote share due to good local organisation.

    In Scotland, it’s still the SNP. In Wales, Plaid Cymru looks like it’ll take over.

    The big unknown in England is whether Labour can stop the rot, break the control of the Labour Together faction and replace Starmer with a soft-left PM. I’m not at all optimistic. Even if they ditch him, the parliamentary party is brain-dead enough to choose Streeting as their next leader. He’s as authoritarian and corporation-friendly as Starmer, and even more slimy.

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      7 hours ago

      My point isn’t that there isn’t a Far Right in Europe or that it’s small, it’s that most of the Far Right dog-whistles from America don’t work in Europe.

      Present day Europeans rarelly care about all the “God talk”, they don’t overly care about Homosexuality or Transsexuality and they certainly don’t think America is a Great Nation.

      Absolutelly, the anti-immigration discourse goes down really well here (in fact, it’s the core of the Far-Right ideology in Europe), but beyond that what exactly is the part of the American Far-Right discourse which would make Europeans be more interested in that side of politics beyond what the Far-Right discourse of the local politicians already does.

      IMHO, the biggest impact of America on the Far-Right in Europe is the money they give to the Far Right in Europe rather than an ideological foundation.

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      8 hours ago

      That’s true, but in every important EU-level vote, Hungary was the inflamed pimple on EUs ass, I truly hope this will change now.