• tburkhol@lemmy.world
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    Whatever else comes out of the 2020s, I like that the era of ‘superpowers’ is pretty clearly over. The former Soviet Union can’t bring one of its former soviets back into the fold. The USA can’t get a regional power to roll over.

    I hope that means a lot more coalition building among the regional powers. Actual compromise and consensus among people with different perspectives. I hope that means less kowtowing to Washington, Moscow, maybe even Beijing, because letting one nation tell the rest of the world what to do just sucks. We can get a lot more done working together than following a bully.

    As an American, if that means giving up the global privilege I’ve had, being the ‘default currency,’ the ‘default language,’ and the ‘default rule,’ then I’ll suffer through it. Maybe it will even help us focus on fixing our domestic problems as they grow to crisis proportions.

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      I 100% agree with this take, but I think we need to be realistic about the impact of the reduction in status and lifestyle for Americans. I think when there is a rapid decline, people are going to become angry and reactionary and looking for someone to blame.

      I think we will be more vulnerable to right wing take over, especially if it coincides with a Democrat administration. The situation might limit the global impact with US powers reduced, but internally it could become a real hellhole.

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        I think you just need to look to Russia to see the US’ future. At no point have they ever stopped to think “maybe we shouldn’t concentrate power in the hands of the incredibly corrupt”. Instead they’ve grabbed hold of the idea that the entire world is conspiring to keep them down, and they’re big mad about it.

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          That’s also going to include most Americans working the same shitty hours they’re working now, living in plywood apartments and standing in line for whatever slop Walmart will sell them.

          And blaming Democrats.

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          I concur, they’re the nearest/closest parallel.

          History books in the future:

          Yeah there was a Cold War, they both lost and then disintegrated/degenerated, it just took the US a few more decades.

          Astonishingly corrupt kleptocracies/oligarchies, degenerate federal democracies that decayed into basically jingoistic/nationalist/supremacist fascism, full of anti-intellectual conspiracy theorists / religious extremists, plauged by deaths of despair, crime is legal if you’re wealthy or well-connected enough, massive prison/slave labor system, police/surveillance state, irredentist attempts at re-assetting their former glory through military violence and psyops, etc.

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        What, the right turn around and blame the current left administration for something that the right had caused before? Why, that never happ… okay, that’s what always happens.