• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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      11 hours ago

      Yes, let billionaires fly and the rest of us should stay on the continent we’re born on.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        4 hours ago

        There is far too much trivial flying for business, and people are flying while avoiding better ways to transport.

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          2 hours ago

          Lol business people won’t care if the costs go up. They already pay extra to be able to sleep on their Intercontinental flights to go drinking “for business”.

          It’ll be you and I who won’t be able to go on vacation anywhere that requires crossing a major body of water.

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        9 hours ago

        Most flights are short haul flights lasting from 1 to 3 hours. Commersial flights could very well be replaced by highspeed trains.

        Changing how commersial flights are done does not mean “lets make it impossible for normal people to fly”

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          8 hours ago

          If you price people out of short haul flights, that just means they’re even less likely to be able to afford long flights which cost money even in good times.

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              5 hours ago

              How else are you planning to make sure people don’t frivolously take short flights, while not banning them outright because sometimes they might be necessary?

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                4 hours ago

                Maybe building those high speed rails and pricing them smart enough that they are cheaper so people have reason to use them.

                Pros: No check in. Railway stations can be build closer to city centers than airports (hard in USA where rail infra is horrible). Nicer to travel. (Restaurant cars, night cars, can take car with you if needed, can take bike with you, more leg space, more flexible (some trains stop at every station and some only in major cities) can transport both cargo and passengers at once, onboard wifi makes the travel much nicer as you can watch movies or even work)

                At 1-3 hour flight the train is not even slower than flying because you dont need to spend 60min at check in and 20/60 min at shuttlebus and waiting your luggage.

                You dont need to penalize airtravel. Just offer alternative service that can compete with it.

                In fact today i choosed a train for my travel. Flight would have been 1 hour and would have cost 170€ + taxi to and from the airport (add the check in, luggage claiming and transport from the airport to home it would have been closer to 3 hours). I took the train. It cost 37€ + 1,50€ subway ticket, and 300m walk from the station to hotel. I could use my phone the whole time. Nobody asked me to take my belt off, i had plenty of legspace the whole time and i got better meal than in any airplane.

                Cons: Somebody needs to build the railways.

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                  2 hours ago

                  Yes, we’re doing that. But you still need to make flying too expensive for everyday use too. Current prediction is that when Rail Baltica is ready it’ll cost more than flying and it’ll also be way slower. It’s like a 3 hour flight to get to Germany vs more than likely all day on the train in a decade or two when it’s actually ready (deadline is 2030, which is now said to mean 2040 or later).

                  It’s easy for those of you in the center of the EU. The rest of us first have to fly or drive there before we can even take the train and even when the railway is built it needs to turn a profit because the project is so expensive. Meaning it can’t be as cheap as flying has been before now. There’s billions in loans to pay back after all.

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          5 hours ago

          This is literally what’s happening and you said it was good lol. Who crapped in your cereal?