Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.

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    None of that is going to stop ICE gestapo from dragging you off to a concentration camp for being a leftist.

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      lololol ICE doesn’t do that. If they did, there would be no one left on Lemmy! I was born a raised in the US, and my family was too, for generations. Ain’t no one coming for me, brother. lol

      Besides, ICE wouldn’t even be able to find this village. I’d love to see them try to get here! lololol

      The party I voted for would have dismantled them. Democrats wouldn’t have.

      Interesting fact about how Democratic Party has dealt with ICE in the past:

      Under President Obama (2009–2017, Democratic administration): Record-high formal removals (“deportations”): The Obama administration carried out more than 3.1 million ICE removals over eight years, with a peak of over 407,000 in fiscal year 2012 alone. An increase of over 70% in criminal removals compared to the final year of the prior (Bush) administration.

      Expanded programs: Obama expanded the Bush-era Secure Communities program, which led to more local-federal cooperation for identifying and removing people with criminal records (or sometimes minor offenses). Critics on the left called him “deporter-in-chief” because of the scale.

      Under President Biden (2021–January 2025, Democratic administration):

      Continued large-scale removals and returns: Through early 2024, the Biden administration had carried out about 1.1 million formal deportations (removals/returns), on pace to match or approach Trump’s first-term totals in similar categories. In addition, there were roughly 3 million Title 42 expulsions at the border (pandemic-era public-health returns, overwhelmingly under Biden).

      These are straight from government data and nonpartisan trackers like the Migration Policy Institute and Pew.

      So like I said, both parties suck. The party I voted for wouldn’t have done that shit. That’s why I voted for them, and why I didn’t vote republican or democrat. :)

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        lololol ICE doesn’t do that.

        Yet. They’re already openly talking about purging 100 million people, and a lot of them would certainly be natural-born citizens.

        Interesting fact about how Democratic Party has dealt with ICE in the past:

        Irrelevant. It’s unfortunate but acceptable for larger numbers of people to be removed, if they have due process and thus actually “deserved” (in the view of the law) to be removed.

        What matters is that Trump is using ICE to do things like terrorize brown people’s neighborhoods, imprison people in concentration camps en masse without due process, illegally rendition people to foreign prisons, and murder protestors in the street.