Israel’s top military lawyer has dropped all criminal charges against five Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reservists who brutally assaulted—including raping—a Palestinian detainee held at the notorious Sde Teiman military detention centre during Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza.
The only person now facing charges and even a jail sentence relating to the events is Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi—the IDF’s previous Military Advocate General who exposed the crime in the first place and initiated the original investigation and indictments. It was Tomer-Yerushalmi who released in August 2024 the infamous video showing the soldiers surrounding and raping a blindfolded Palestinian detainee against a wall for around 15 minutes.
Investigators are examining allegations against Tomer-Yerushalmi linked to the leak and related actions, such as obstruction or false statements, abuse of office, and disclosure of official information by a public servant. If convicted she could face up to three years in prison.
…



They can be de-indoctrinated. Hitlerjugend were doing far worse than singing.
And Germany was never properly de-nazi-fied. Many ended up in positions of government post-war, many more of course spread out to other countries.
I appreciate the compassion you’re showing but I think failure to properly deal with Nazis is huge for our history, it’s working against the case you’re making.
Given that nowadays Germany is one of the most Nazi-averse countries on earth, I think the system worked fine.
You can’t put 40 or 60 million people in jail, or execute them. You can execute the top leadership, throw active party members in jail and change the education system, legal frameworks and media structure to make sure that future generations learn from what happened… even if uncle Hans still thinks Hitler did nothing wrong.
“Nazi-averse” needs some pretty strong qualifiers friend. I guess if you mean strong rules about using the literal gestures, iconography, etc., no disagreement there. If you mean “really definitely NOT doing and saying the kinds of things Nazis liked to say and do”, well, we’ll find disagreement pretty quickly.
I was never suggesting putting 40-60 million people in jail OR executing them, again no disagreement there [identifying a quick edit I made here, apologies, I did initially read that piece carelessly and responded to something you clearly didn’t intend (about what I intended…), which is on me].
Moving on from that you essentially said “so otherwise what was already done is as good as it gets”, is how I read that, but I guess tell me if I’m the one being uncharitable here.
I think we could’ve done a LOT better and I think we’d better start, and well beyond there of course. No, I don’t quite know how either. Yes I do think sooner is better than later.
I wonder why you disagree.
Alright, so you can take your pick from a handful of things I’m aware of. I’m no expert on Germany or post WW2 history, but one doesn’t really need to be.
Regarding literal de-nazification - Wikipedia talks about a ~800k people amnesty program including people who participated in atrocities. Gives stats and notable individuals. A credible read would assume "probably more and worse we don’t know about or otherwise escaped real scrutiny or punishment. But even if you accept non-punishment, as you earlier may have suggested support for? Surely it’s foolish, bad policy, dangerous, and cruel to living victims to allow these people to operate in the government moving forward. Shouldn’t be too controversial.
Moving on there’s plenty of info about AfD’s modern sympathies for and associations with neo Nazi movements and ideas. Not gonna bother being a search engine for ya on that one, pick your flavor of source and take a look. And again, I’d say “these cowards have always hidden, so there’s more than we see”.
Finally, I don’t know how you can call ongoing military support via weapons systems and funding to Israel anything other than fucking hyper Nazi shit. Some Nazis would probably find what’s being done to Palestine too rough.
Far as I’m concerned Germany’s de-nazification was primarily symbolic - meaning many Nazis continued to rule (77% of gov in 1957), there is a strong thread of that behavior and ideology in German action and political life, while the things we can point to, done in earnest or at least to some degree of competence, are really just suppressing literal symbols, and open voicing of support. Symbolic lip service.
Just acknowledging I’ve seen your message and will send over a proper reply when I’m more available.