People always act like being in the military just absolves them of all their personal moral obligations. It is the morally correct thing to refuse these orders even if it means going to prison. Yes believe it or not, you going to prison is better than you killing innocent people.
No guarantee she would actually have went with the attack on Iran. Did you see the soldier ruining USA’s opsec by filming lazily his own radar system being blown up?
You can’t view everything so black and white. These are normal people who signed up to do something they thought was right, only to be pushed into an unexpected war, their lives and livelihoods, their honor, their people at stake. But when push comes to shove, many of them just won’t co-operate in the war, and those people aren’t typically televised.
Many of us willingly or unwillingly participate in questionable systems, burning fossil fuels as a side-effect. This does not mean we want to, self-preservation is a thing. But for example: even though I depend on many of the goods going through the suez cannal, I root for it’s closure, for the destruction of fossil fuels. I have a portable solar panel, and I want to transition to 100% energy independence and my own grown food.
Look at the army for freedom of Russia that is fighting it’s own country. Quite a few defectors helping Ukraine.
You only make things worse by rejecting these people as scum, by not leaving any room for their humanity. You kill who you must to protect yourself, you try to get them to defect to your side, and you can’t do that by damning them right away.
These people were just like you, believing they would rise up against their tyrannical government, and lay down their lives for the greater good, but it is not so simple or easy.
“But have you considered having a nuanced opinion about the soldiers of a country that said it plans to flatten all of Iran” - No reasonable person ever
Ok, so if your country goes to war, I expect you to instantly start shooting your own troops.
I just know that your way never works out in real life. The amount of death, destruction, horror that would come about of applying your ideology would be incomprehensible.
No but i would be okay with people calling them terrorists and celebrating them losing. I will always cheer for aggressors eating shit, no matter where they come from.
To be fair America has a staggering number of friendly fire incidents. They tend to kill allied military folk from other countries too. Oopsie Poopsie.
People always act like being in the military just absolves them of all their personal moral obligations. It is the morally correct thing to refuse these orders even if it means going to prison. Yes believe it or not, you going to prison is better than you killing innocent people.
No guarantee she would actually have went with the attack on Iran. Did you see the soldier ruining USA’s opsec by filming lazily his own radar system being blown up?
It doesnt matter how you are involved with the war, if you help run a base, operate a drone or whatever else. You are still assisting war crimes.
You can’t view everything so black and white. These are normal people who signed up to do something they thought was right, only to be pushed into an unexpected war, their lives and livelihoods, their honor, their people at stake. But when push comes to shove, many of them just won’t co-operate in the war, and those people aren’t typically televised.
Many of us willingly or unwillingly participate in questionable systems, burning fossil fuels as a side-effect. This does not mean we want to, self-preservation is a thing. But for example: even though I depend on many of the goods going through the suez cannal, I root for it’s closure, for the destruction of fossil fuels. I have a portable solar panel, and I want to transition to 100% energy independence and my own grown food.
Look at the army for freedom of Russia that is fighting it’s own country. Quite a few defectors helping Ukraine.
You only make things worse by rejecting these people as scum, by not leaving any room for their humanity. You kill who you must to protect yourself, you try to get them to defect to your side, and you can’t do that by damning them right away.
These people were just like you, believing they would rise up against their tyrannical government, and lay down their lives for the greater good, but it is not so simple or easy.
Uh, source? Or even convincing anecdotal evidence?
Fucking clean wehrmacht myth but for yank troops lol
“But have you considered having a nuanced opinion about the soldiers of a country that said it plans to flatten all of Iran” - No reasonable person ever
Ok, so if your country goes to war, I expect you to instantly start shooting your own troops.
I just know that your way never works out in real life. The amount of death, destruction, horror that would come about of applying your ideology would be incomprehensible.
No but i would be okay with people calling them terrorists and celebrating them losing. I will always cheer for aggressors eating shit, no matter where they come from.
The amount of death, destruction and horror that comes from yank troops not fragging their officers is already incomprehensible.
To be fair America has a staggering number of friendly fire incidents. They tend to kill allied military folk from other countries too. Oopsie Poopsie.
Give it time, even Russians fragged their officers.