this is the first meme I have ever made (yes I am that old) - so be gentle :)
what does being modern mean to you?
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Oh my god my biggest pet peeve is every single new project awarding itself “modern, lightweight, blazing fast”. Seeing these words actually negatively affects my perception of your new super cool project. Along with the fucking emojis.
aka:
Modern: “I couldn’t understand the codebase of the previous solution, so I rewrote it using stuff I’m familiar with”
Lightweight: “Featureless/no features that I don’t use”
Blazing fast: “Doesn’t have any edge cases handled yet”
haha indeed - modern has this “blinking lights” connotation. something that is shiny.
True story - once, in primary school, I went to a halloween party, where all the boys were dressed as batman and all the girls as macarena (guess my age). The host of the party was maybe the only one not dressed as batman.
He was wearing some weird jell in the hair, like a punk kind of thing, with a lot of strass, stars all over his body, some heart or thunder shaped big mirror glasses, a shiny jacket and the best looking blue mocasines I have ever seen. He also had a big radio antenna (??) coming through his nylon electric yellow vest.
I asked him: what are you dressed as? and he replied: “Modern”.
To be fair a lot of these things are js. I could probably write a new one faster than I could understand the existing code base.
Unfortunately I agree but there are a few that are different, for example have you tried Voiden ( https://voiden.md/) maybe? We opensourced a few weeks back.
I have not.
Though honestly I rarely use these types of tools as a back end dev.
For my own code I’m likely to use curl or maybe fetch depending.
The times I do reach for these it’s usually someone else’s API that I’m looking it. If they offer an openapi spec I can import then I will.
They do !
Here’s how to get started : https://docs.voiden.md/docs/getting-started-section/getting-started/openapi-imports
eh, how modern is it?
I hear this a lot right before deployment disasters. ;)
🤣 😂 😭
I’m going back to curl
Some of us never left
If i can’t figure out how to use your api with curl why would i trust myself to use it in a real application
from where?
curl with front-end
Postman
…terminal
Insomnia > Postman.
I switched to Insomnia around 2021 when Postman started enshittifying and found I liked it a lot more. Insomnia has also been relatively enshittified unfortunately, but it feels like it’s to a lesser extent.
Bruno > Insomnia
Dropped insomnia after it started to ask me to login and collaborate on things
So you stopped after collaborate, but did you listen?
What’s the reference here?
Insomnia user here, it is worth moving to Bruno?
If insomnia is working for you I wouldn’t change just for the sake of it. If insomnia starts to get in your way or you want to get out of something that is VC backed before the enshitification really takes hold I would consider it.
100% won’t regret it
Postman was great when it made APIs simple, but over time all the accounts, cloud sync, and extra features kind of slowed down the core workflow. And then a lot of clients just ended up copying that model instead of rethinking it.
On the optimistic side we are seeing some stuff that want to rethink this: tools like Voiden and Yaak with a few new approaches like Git-native workflows, reusable request pieces, more composable setups basically making API work feel more like actual dev work again.
true :) I heard this actually even from ex insomnia folks - the direction could have been much different.
That’s a shame, because it was really great for a hot minute.
What do you mean by modern api client? Postman? Try bruno.
this is the “joke”. that every API client calls themseleves modern without this essentially meaning much.
and certainly not, I dont mean Postman. But this is the easy answer. What I also mean is that many of the tools that came as a response to Postman being “old fashioned” are basically mimicking the same things or principles with a few things here and there.
so everything is like “postman but with a better XYZ feature” or “Postman but open source”…
Bruno does not have any of the characteristic in the meme you shared. And still I do not understand what do you mean by modern api client. Every single application using an API is an API client. Do you mean stuff like curl or postman or things like first party SDKs or what?
yes, sorry for the confusion - yes I mean API Client tool - postman, insomnia etc. etc.
I think OP means an API client dev/test tool, like Postman.
At first I also couldn’t figure out what a UI had to do with an API client lol.
- bruno does have a paywall last time I checked :) but the point is not to have tool debates :) my main point is around overall philosophies and ways that new things are like older things with a small twist.
There is no paywall in Bruno, nor login, in the open source version. It is file system based, with no external dependency.
What paywall? I’m using it for free…
your first? really! Don Juan of the masses and the memes
haha I dont know how to take this
yessssss
