• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    11 hours ago

    Determining precisely what happened has been impeded by the lack of visible weapons fragments and the inability of outside reporters to reach the scene.

    Look, when evidence comes out of USA responsibility, I will be the first to condemn them, to call for murder trials and sending them to the hague.

    But we don’t have evidence and the constant confident assertion that the USA is responsible really peeves me.

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      9 hours ago

      We do have evidence and no you will not ever accept that it is “good” enough evidance.

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          The dead children in a warzone where the us is the aggressor (and israel has denied while the us has not). Oh and then your shitheal of a leader stated on video that they will continue to target schools and kids.

          Next your going to try telling us that the Iranian forces bombed their own desalination plants.

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            9 hours ago

            If everything Trump said was true then we would be living in a very different timeline. It is not evidence.

            To be clear, I’m heavily in support of congress passing a war powers resolution to end Trump’s bullshit, I am not defending the USA’s actions, but I demand we hold whoever is responsible accountable and part of that is ensuring we find out who it is first.

            That said I think things are more nuanced than calling the USA an aggressor, given Iran’s involvement in the Gaza Genocide and their slaughtering of their own civilians after recent riots. While I don’t agree with Trump’s war, I do think we need to be supporting a rebellion against the dictatorship in Iran.

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              If everything Trump said was true then we would be living in a very different timeline. It is not evidence.

              That is the leader of the nation in question, lies or not that is the timeline we live in. Its evidence, its a confession, it is a boast and what he says does matter.

              To be clear, I’m heavily in support of congress passing a war powers resolution to end Trump’s bullshit, I am not defending the USA’s actions, but I demand we hold whoever is responsible accountable and part of that is ensuring we find out who it is first.

              They already caved on that, the states is a broken husk of a democratic nation.

              That said I think things are more nuanced than calling the USA an aggressor, given Iran’s involvement in the Gaza Genocide and their slaughtering of their own civilians after recent riots. While I don’t agree with Trump’s war, I do think we need to be supporting a rebellion against the dictatorship in Iran.

              The usa is 100% the aggressor here, not even debatable. There is nothing you can say (even less so in the case of Gaza) that is not going to be the geopolitical equivalent of “but look at what she was wearing”.

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                8 hours ago

                The recent votes were 47:53 and 210 to 216, along party lines. It’s not “caved on” it’s that the GOP are worthless assholes who should never be allowed in power.

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                  8 hours ago

                  The vote was passed, I (and everyone else in the real world) do not care about the stupid team bullshit in america.

                  What ever you think people around the world feel about the usa you are wrong, the opinion is at least twice as bad. No one cares that you voted for kodos, no one cares that the blue or red team did or did not do anything, we live in a world where if your nation starts bombing people in a foreign nation you are the aggressor.

                  And do you know what happens if the GOP is never allowed in power again? You have a one party state. So you have either a authoritarian government that does not follow the rule of law, or a one party state (but the blue team can feel smug). Grow up and stop pretending things are any type of normal, stop denying what is painfully clear to everyone not glazing the usa.

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                    8 hours ago

                    You’re confused, a War Powers Resolution has not passed because if it does pass it will take power AWAY from trump.