Surely, if it exists, it should be released, but where our attention might better be focused is in supporting candidates who are refusing to accept pro-Israel PAC contributions and running on platforms challenging failed policies of the past.
I don’t believe this happened organically, though. How was this culture built via Israeli influence? That’s what I want to know.
All the fucking surveillance that finds its way back to Israel… there’s more to the story, we just don’t know the details. I don’t want to throw around allegations/conspiracy, but one thing that would make perfect sense to me is if Israel were involved with Epstein. Then it’s not a long shot to think they blackmailed people for support. The supporters then act like influencers, creating a culture.
Hey, there probably is some blackmail. There’s certainly a ton of bribery. Some of that is probably Israel-based, but also some of it is the big corporations. The Military Industrial Complex needs wars, and they will absolutely create them as needed, because that’s how they make money. Similarly, Big Corporations rely on the current anti-worker two-party system … they are scared shitless that people might actually put a leftist into the White House. And because of that, they need wedge issues. Israel has been an effective one for a very long time.
How was this culture built via Israeli influence? That’s what I want to know.
Because for 30 years the chairs only cared about amount raised, and AIPAC thru around a lot of money. Even if a down allot candidate didn’t take AIPAC money, the party was beholden.
Another thing you’re unaware of is in 2025 the DNC pivoted from that.
The focus is back on votes and not warchests, which is why the DNC is dumping their hoarded wealth on state parties allowing all the wins we’ve been seeing.
AIPACs money doesn’t offset the votes, so today’s DNC isn’t gonna just do what AIPAC says.
The neoliberal strategy was get as much money as possible, and then counting on being the lesser of two evils. That’s not effective so we stopped.
so today’s DNC isn’t gonna just do what AIPAC says.
Which is what I’m pushing back on. Schumer and Jefferies are clearly continuing to steer the party in an explicitly pro-Israel manner. My argument is that today DNC is just as pro-Israel as it was 2 years ago. Maybe tomorrows DNC will be different, but right now, the US Democratic party supports what the US and Israel are doing in Iran.
I don’t think the actions of Schumer and Jeffries necessarily invalidate what the poster said. Those are incumbents from a previous time when the DNC was decidedly more unconditionally pro-Israel. Since those are senior members of their houses, AIPAC may be influencing them directly outside of their DNC contributions. Remember that Schumer and Jeffries are members of the Democratic Party, but do not run the DNC, per se.
Not that I particularly understand or agree with your point about his name or the elephant in the room, or even that we’re “conditioned.”
But I think there’s some general truth to the conditioning. I feel like spectacle driven conditioning is an organic social phenomenon that comes into play when game theory crosses heirs with macro psychology. Capitalism made the world’s most aggressively imperialistic empire for good reason, after all. Probably not because that was the intention, but because of the organic conditioning it produces.
Furthermore, I think people can take advantage of that fact. It surely can appear like orchestrated, intentional conditioning. But I’m doubtful. We need to understand psychology better.
I don’t believe this happened organically, though. How was this culture built via Israeli influence? That’s what I want to know.
All the fucking surveillance that finds its way back to Israel… there’s more to the story, we just don’t know the details. I don’t want to throw around allegations/conspiracy, but one thing that would make perfect sense to me is if Israel were involved with Epstein. Then it’s not a long shot to think they blackmailed people for support. The supporters then act like influencers, creating a culture.
thats hardly “conspiracy”.
Hey, there probably is some blackmail. There’s certainly a ton of bribery. Some of that is probably Israel-based, but also some of it is the big corporations. The Military Industrial Complex needs wars, and they will absolutely create them as needed, because that’s how they make money. Similarly, Big Corporations rely on the current anti-worker two-party system … they are scared shitless that people might actually put a leftist into the White House. And because of that, they need wedge issues. Israel has been an effective one for a very long time.
Because for 30 years the chairs only cared about amount raised, and AIPAC thru around a lot of money. Even if a down allot candidate didn’t take AIPAC money, the party was beholden.
Another thing you’re unaware of is in 2025 the DNC pivoted from that.
The focus is back on votes and not warchests, which is why the DNC is dumping their hoarded wealth on state parties allowing all the wins we’ve been seeing.
AIPACs money doesn’t offset the votes, so today’s DNC isn’t gonna just do what AIPAC says.
The neoliberal strategy was get as much money as possible, and then counting on being the lesser of two evils. That’s not effective so we stopped.
You are more hopeful than I am.
AIPAC spent millions on a Democratic primary in NJ because the frontrunner said that Israeli air should have conditions.
A Bernie Sanders campaign organizer ended up winning the primary.
Sure. But the statement was:
Which is what I’m pushing back on. Schumer and Jefferies are clearly continuing to steer the party in an explicitly pro-Israel manner. My argument is that today DNC is just as pro-Israel as it was 2 years ago. Maybe tomorrows DNC will be different, but right now, the US Democratic party supports what the US and Israel are doing in Iran.
I don’t think the actions of Schumer and Jeffries necessarily invalidate what the poster said. Those are incumbents from a previous time when the DNC was decidedly more unconditionally pro-Israel. Since those are senior members of their houses, AIPAC may be influencing them directly outside of their DNC contributions. Remember that Schumer and Jeffries are members of the Democratic Party, but do not run the DNC, per se.
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Every holy book says its followers are god’s bestest people, it’s just literally just money, you’re being an idiot.
Not Crom. Crom doesn’t give a shit about people. His only message is “You’re on your own. Deal with it.”
Not that I particularly understand or agree with your point about his name or the elephant in the room, or even that we’re “conditioned.”
But I think there’s some general truth to the conditioning. I feel like spectacle driven conditioning is an organic social phenomenon that comes into play when game theory crosses heirs with macro psychology. Capitalism made the world’s most aggressively imperialistic empire for good reason, after all. Probably not because that was the intention, but because of the organic conditioning it produces.
Furthermore, I think people can take advantage of that fact. It surely can appear like orchestrated, intentional conditioning. But I’m doubtful. We need to understand psychology better.