Progressives acknowledging the fact of genocide is a good first step, and it’s useful that Ocasio-Cortez and others have done so — “I think [unconditional aid to Israel] enabled a genocide in Gaza,” she said in Munich — but it is not in and of itself sufficient. Before anyone in the party can move on to selling a post-Biden vision of human-rights-first foreign policy, they must address what accountability for the war criminals in the Biden administration — those who aided, armed, and funded genocide — should look like.



Gonna try to address this one claim at a time. First and most consistently you make the claim that:
This is an easy one to dismiss, because, just… its obviously not. Like its not even point worth engaging with beyond the performative aspect of making you look like an idiot. If its a binary, how did Kennedy get any votes in the general? Or De la Cruz. Or Stein. If voting is a binary and there is no secret third option, then how did the vote totals change between 2020, 2024? How is it the Democratic vote total went down from 2020 to 2024 if there isn’t some “other choice” voters have between Republicans or Democrats?
A voter has many options when it comes to voting. You can approve of or disapprove of the options, but pretending that voters only have two options is just… not true.
EG, you don’t understand how elections work. You already demonstrate that with your insistence that voting is a binary. You’ve drunk decades of propaganda which shifts the responsibility for electoral outcomes from candidates and campaigns, and shifts that blame to voters. A corollary is how petroleum used the exact same approach to convince people that they individually were responsible for the outcomes of climate change, specifically around recycling. You’re engaging in the same bait and switch that petroleum company used to shed responsibility for climate change.
Yes. 1.5 billion. That’s how much in donations the Harris campaign got.
Here lets run the experiment
It’s August 2024, the night before the convention, and I’m appointing you Kamala Harris’s campaign manager. You are just coming off the big bump in polling you got from naming Tim Walz your vp. So far, your polling has been meteoric. You managed to got from the low forties high thirties to high forties in weeks.
You’ve got 1.5 billion dollars to spend, and a week of captured media going into the convention. You have three months.
The experiment (0, 1) is conducted by you answering the following questions follows:
0 You are not allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.
1 You are allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.
If there is no credible approach where you can accomplish a Democratic victory, the you have to cede that the only way Democrats could have won the election without Harris changing their policy on Gaza.
And it would have cost 0 dollars for Harris to change her position on Gaza. The only people to blame for Trump being in office are Harris and the Harris campaign. They were the only ones in a position to convert an L to a W. No other individuals held that power.
Are you advocating third party voting? Is that what you’ve been dancing around?
You spend hours explaining something to someone. And then they come back with the reading comprehension and ability to understand of a clay pot.
Just go re-read the thread dude. And if thats too much, go to a library and ask for the book “One fish, Two fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish”.