Progressives acknowledging the fact of genocide is a good first step, and it’s useful that Ocasio-Cortez and others have done so — “I think [unconditional aid to Israel] enabled a genocide in Gaza,” she said in Munich — but it is not in and of itself sufficient. Before anyone in the party can move on to selling a post-Biden vision of human-rights-first foreign policy, they must address what accountability for the war criminals in the Biden administration — those who aided, armed, and funded genocide — should look like.

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    No, I am not talking about primaries. If a candidate holds a position which will prevent them from winning a general, in the context of election like the previous election, you have the responsibility to take whatever actions are necessary to move that candidate, including threatening to withholding your vote right up to election day if they don’t change their position, after which, you need to pull the lever for the Blue candidate once you are in the voting booth.

    FTFY.

    Hell, even do it in secret and claim even after voting, that you didn’t vote for the Dem because they wouldn’t take a stand against Genocide in Israel. You can even still claim today to have withheld your vote, for all I care. If you didn’t actually vote, or voted 3rd party, or even (God forbid) voted Trump, even though your vote is private, then you are a piece of shit, and the criticism being levelled at you is appropriate.

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      Jesus fucking christ. You get that this is the exact fucking strategy that Democrats ran on in 2024? What you are outlining, how you want to approach convincing people to the blue lever: Its exactly what the Democrats did in 2024.

      And it fucking lost. Get it through you FUCKING skull. You will LOSE the election AGAIN, just like the Democrats did in 2016, and 2024.

      You can’t move voters to a candidate. Period. Its not functional strategy. It doesn’t fucking matter if you don’t like it. It doesn’t fucking work. It loses fucking elections.

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        You can’t be yelling at me. I most likely agree entirely with your position on all of this except for what non-shitstain human beings will do once they are alone in the voting booth on election day. You probably need to make a little more effort in figuring out who essentially agrees with you for the most part and who is actually a shill for the DNC (or genocide).

        I think you may have missed my point. I am saying do exactly as you do up until you are alone in the voting booth on election day, at which time you still vote for harm reduction, even if it is done in secret and you never admit it. It isn’t that hard to understand.