As details of the death toll for January’s protests continue to emerge, three students explain why they are resisting a return to normality
More than 45 days after a brutal January crackdown that left thousands of Iranian protesters dead, students across several universities are protesting again. As Iran’s new academic term began on Saturday, students in Tehran gathered on campus, chanting anti-government slogans, despite a heavy security presence and plainclothes officers stationed outside university gates.
The Guardian spoke to protesting students about why they were rallying despite the fact that thousands had been killed and tens of thousands arrested in the January demonstrations.
“Our classrooms are empty because the graveyards are full,” said Hossein*, 21, a student at the University of Tehran. “It’s for them – our friends, classmates and compatriots, who were gunned down in front of our eyes, that we decided to boycott the classes.”
Oh, getting a bit mad, huh? Where were you born and raised?
A whole essay shifting your goalposts. You said I’m making up Russians pretending to be Americans. I give you a every clear example, and you just kick off a tantrum about how “European propaganda” this and that. Clearly setting sort of teams here. And implying I’m on one (European) and by implication that you’re on another.
I’m really not up to writing an essay where I answer all your whataboutism and shitty implications.
If you’re pretending like “European propaganda” exists, that there’s some hegemonic culture which unites all the countries and thus all their intelligence apparatuses as well and they share coordinated disinformation campaigns equal to those of Russia? Get fucked, you know how ridiculous of a notion that is. Europe isn’t a hegemony, unlike Russia, which is absolutely infamous for its disinformation campaigns, all over the world. Objectively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation
Told you, Spaniard. Believe it or not, not everyone who disagrees with European supremacy is a Russian actor.
I said you’re making up the scale of it, which you are.
Lmao, that’s unbelievable, you’re literally the joke of the CIA agent telling the KGB agent that there’s no propaganda in the US
Are you capable of conceiving that a collaborative project edited foremost by tech-literate Anglos using Anglo sources will portray the bias of Anglo propaganda? Would you trust a Russian or Chinese collaborative encyclopedia on articles about western disinformation using Russian and Chinese sources?
You’re literally entirely oblivious of the extent of western propaganda. Clue: you’re witnessing the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza LIVE and the invasion of Iran, and you’re still portraying immensely more anti-Russian bias than anti-American.
Small test on European propaganda: ask yourself how much you know about Stalin and the gulags, and how much you know about France’s colonial violence in Algeria in 1960s.
I said you’re making up the scale of it, which you are.
The scale of “non-insignificant”? Yes, obviously it’s me who’s overreacting here. Lol.
No, not everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian, but most who virulently talk of “the West” and “European propaganda”, especially bringing it out when Russia is criticised turn out to be. It’s kinda funny, because said Ruskis never understand how see-through they are. Just like Davel. And even if I’m 100% confident he is Russian, and even had the evidence to prove it, he would never admit to it, because, why would he?
The point here is that Europe isn’t a hegemony. There is no “European propaganda” in the same sense there is organised Russian disinformation. To argue against that is just idiocy, and shows how little you understand what it’s like to live in Europe. And not all of Europe is EU either, even if EU had some sort of hegemony — which it doesn’t.
Oh like Russians who just stomp their foot and insist Lemmy doesn’t have Russians, okay it has Russians but not Russians pretending to be from other countries, okay Russians pretending to be from other countries but not on this absolutely gargantuan scale which you said, okay you didn’t say a gargantuan scale, you just said “non-insignificant”, but still, I’m right and you’re wrong.
Remember when I asked you if you were a Ruski, if you’d admit to it, or pretend to be from another country? Yeah… ;>
Roflmao
I probably didn’t answer all your garbage but I’m off to have a burger now, I’ll read more about you crying and defending Russian disinfo later, because you won’t be able to give this up, because I’ve called you out on your BS and that just annoys you so when people don’t just do what they regularly do with people like you, which is to ignore them.
Like it’s so hilarious that you’re implying that basically only if Russia themselves admit to actively doing disinfo, then it’s gonna be trustworthy, but anyone else saying anything about it is bs? :D
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/schwerpunkte/EN/disinformation/examples-of-russian-disinformation-and-the-facts.html
Bund.de is probably just european propaganda and all made up but Russia doesn’t do disinfo right? Ruahahaha
I have a hard time understanding how most of Ruskis are so simple and yet still have the most chess GM’s and such good spycraft at higher levels.
“Propaganda doesn’t exist in my country”
-Dumbest person on Earth
Keep believing that everything is Russian propaganda while your own country guts your welfare, your rights, destroys its economy and supports genocide in Palestine lmfao. Por quinta y última vez, soy español cojones. This is my alt from hexbear @[email protected] feel free to check out my latest post discussing the Spanish civil war with Spanish sources, freaking paranoid Finn
Keep the workers distracted from questioning why they have no rights. Couldn’t be the rich in america, it’s clearly Russia’s fault that the hillbilly state senators in texas hate minorities. Couldn’t be home grown capitalism, it’s Russian!
Ofc it fucking does. But “Europe” isn’t a country, is it, dipshit? Europe isn’t a hegemony. You need a hegemony for proper propaganda. How is this so hard for you to understand? Are you honestly so willfully ignorant you don’t know what “hegemony” means that you won’t spend 10 seconds checking the meaning? :D
What does discussing the Spanish civil war have to do with Russians being ashamed of being loser Ruskis? Either you’re a super shamed Ruski, or even worse, a European who’s bought into their propaganda. (I genuinely think the latter is worse tbh.)
It’s a great burger btw.
Russian disinfo is objectively massive. Yet you’re literally defending it like a conditioned dog.