• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    What state was going to turn if all green party voters voted Harris?

    Because you can’t name one, I’ll proceed to the next point: it’s the job of the party to court votes. That’s it. They don’t have another job. And when they fail in doing that, they’ve failed in their job.

    A party blaming voters is like a sailor blaming the sea. The sea just is what it is. There is nothing any sailor or captain, or person looking from land can do to change the manner of the sea.

    The voters are the way they are. You can hate the way that they are, you can wish they were different than how they are, but that doesn’t not change them. We told you this in 2023. You ignored us and told us that “the voters just needed to suck it up and vote this way”. But the voters didn’t, because that’s not how voters work. And by resisting calls for the party to change, you are doing the work of setting us up for further failure.

    If you are blaming voters, an amorphous blob over which neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has control of: you are a saboteur of the effort to stop fascism.

    It is politically illiterate to blame voters. When the sailors in board tell the captain “don’t go that way, there are rocks”, and the captain says "well the rocks better move, whose fault is it that the rocks didn’t move?

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      6 hours ago

      Idk about the Greens, but Biden had 6 Million more votes in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. That’s a lot of abstainers.

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      9 hours ago

      Libs would rather try to get millions of ordinary people to give up their most fundamental moral principles than ask one powerful person to exhibit basic human decency. They essentially treat politicians like gods, to be followed unconditionally. No form of democracy could ever work with such a submissive populace.

      That’s if you take what they say at face value, anyway. The reality is a lot of them don’t want to pressure politicians about things like the genocide of foreigners because they don’t genuinely care. They just have to pretend to for rhetorical reasons to appease leftists. If a politician disagrees with them on something they actually care about, they may suddenly find their misplaced spines. Hard to say how many are like that, as opposed to the ones who are genuinely spineless.

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      8 hours ago

      You can’t expect the people who blindly vote for their favorite color to actually understand what an election is, let alone want to win an election.

      They don’t care what happens in the oval office as long as it’s blue. Like how Biden didn’t actually stop the cages on the border, they just ignored it until Trump was in office. And then they pretend to care again as they say all Latinos are guilty of what the DNC chose to ignore.