I’ve been using Termius for a few years for an SSH client. Have have a lot of self-hosted servers both in my home lab and on VPSs. I’m looking to cut some costs since it’s $120/year and really the main thing I use it for is syncing my SSH accounts and credentials between a laptop, a desktop, and my Android phone. So I’m looking for a new method to sync these things.
I’d prefer a single application, but I’d settle for a good, secure way to sync the credentials and recommendations for applications on Fedora and Android.
Edit: I’m OK with a one time payment application, but prefer open source or a solution I can self-host the sync server. And I don’t want a subscription.
openssh client in foot and termux
i store my ssh key on my yubikey using the gpg interface. On linux it’s natively supported, on windows you need cleopatra and on android you can you OpenKeychain together with TermBot.
This won’t sync the hosts you have, but at least you always will have your private key with you.
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Fewer Letters More Letters LXC Linux Containers SFTP Secure File Transfer Protocol for encrypted file transfer, over SSH SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access
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Not an answer, but I’m curious: what’s wrong with just having several ssh keys, one per device?
In fact, that’s generally what you want to do, since if one device gets lost or compromised, you just revoke access to the key for that device.
The primary issue is I don’t always access devices from only those 3 systems. If I’m traveling or I wipe my device or get a new one, I would have to add the new key to many servers as authorized keys, and I’d need to have password access enabled in order to add the keys in the first place. Also, I want a key backed up in case of disaster since all of my devices are in my home most of the time. A few people use these systems, but only I maintain them.
For that scenario you could also consider using certificate based login. Just store your root certificate in a safe place (like a Keepass) an then sign new keys for your new devices when you get one.
https://docs.ssh.com/manuals/server-admin/44/User_Authentication_with_Certificates.html
and I’d need to have password access enabled in order to add the keys
Besides the other points, you could just add the public keys directly in the .ssh/authorized_keys(2) file of the server as long as you still have access from another device. That way you don’t have to enable passwords.
Let’s untangle those problems. I have a similar setup so I just want to share some ideas to show that you don’t need to copy keys.
If I’m traveling or I wipe my device or get a new one, I would have to add the new key to many servers as authorized keys
If you oftentimes access ssh from untrusted systems you’re kind of in a bad spot to begin with. The best thing you can have is a yubikey on a keychain. Everything else means you leak secret material (a password or a key) to a machine you don’t inherently trust.
Also, I want a key backed up in case of disaster since all of my devices are in my home most of the time
Again, something that you can easily solve with a hardware key [in a safe]. But realistically, in case of a disaster a local shell password login should be good enough?
I’d recommend you to think about what attacks are you trying to prevent by using a shared private key. I’m not saying it’s a bad concept, inherently having it in your password manager (like 1Password that even has ssh-agent support) is pretty common. The problem with just the keys is that it’s non-trivial to expire them if needed. You might be indeed better off with some web based authentication that you can access from any place which would ask you secret questions/send you a text message or do whatever 2FA you deem sufficient and mint you a short-lived certificate for ssh.
You can store an ssh key in Bitwarden or Keepass(XC) easily enough - Bitearden can certainly be configured as the actual source of your ssh keys with only a tiny bit of config effort
You can back up ~/.ssh though, and restore it on any system.
sshch - SSH connection and aliases manager with curses and command line interface.
I switched from Termius to Termix: https://github.com/Termix-SSH/Termix. Same idea, I wanted open-source, free (they state ‘forever-free’), and self-hostable. I used the Proxmox helper-script to install the ‘server’ as an LXC on my homelab, and then there are ‘clients’ for Linux, Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, etc. I just copied my SSH credentials, hosts, and snippets over from Termius and haven’t found a need to go back. I’m a relatively novice user and found xpipe a bit complex for my use, but it’s another solid option too.
I would like to add a second for termix, it’s a pretty acceptable replacement and self hosting is a +.
Bitwarden can generate and store keys and also works as an SSH agent.
Warp terminal has rules you can sync online. I use them to connect to 30+ remote servers each with its own key that never leaves Bitwarden.
I wished they’d create a MobaXterm for Linux.
A password manager? I know Bitwarden and 1Password can store SSH keys and their desktop clients have an SSH agent. No idea about using your keys on Android though.
What about small step sash ca?
I’ve been using it to secure all my stuff for over a year, no more copying keys about
Xpipe is fantastic. I have to manage a LOT of SSH connections between work and homelab (well over 200 now) and Xpipe has been a god send.
Juicessh? One time payment, unfortunately not open source but can deal with a lot of services, you can use ssh key and I don’t know what else you’d need but you can take a look (and test it for free since the payment is only to unlock features you might not need)
Last update in 2021, delisted in Playstore, multiple security fixes are missing… Don’t even think about it
I paid for it a long time ago, but will not use it anymore
Not the guy you replied to, but I’m a JuiceSSH user too, and I didn’t know this. That sucks.
Yes it really sucks. I got aware of this as there was a security patch for openssh server and I waited for an update for JuiceSSH, but it never came.
Oh I never knew either!
Not that you mention it it is true that I have not seen it update in a long time. Since I’m only using it from time to time and locally (mainly) I’ve never bothered to check.
What are you using instead?
I use Termius, they have a paid version too as subscription service. This includes sync across devices etc. I don’t need those pro features. I use SFTP and SSH and this works fine without paying. Never seen ads
