• Count042@lemmy.ml
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      The DNC literally admitted to braking it own rules and cheating for Hillary in court.

      Your bullshit here that Bernie couldn’t win the primary so he wouldn’t win the general is post-hoc rationalization of the DNC being an undemocratic institution and justifying their theft of the party.

      Without addressing that theft, no primary in the world will fix this.

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        The Democrat party sucks. But at this point it only matters to historians. Sure it’s good to remember how America got into this mess but right now it’s more important to figure out how to get out of it. I hope there’s no more republican or Democrat party after this

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          First step is not putting your hope that the people who got you into this mess who have every reason to not try and get you out this mess, can and will fix it.

          Part of the purpose of consequences is to stop the damage.

          Obama’s whole “Lets not look backward” schtick is what allowed every single person responsible for the Iraq war and 2008 financial crisis, and the 2010 foreclosure-fraud crisis to maintain their positions of power.

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            That’s one of the things I fear, that the democrats will somehow regain power but utterly fail to hold anyone accountable for this mess and then later on Stephen Miller will become president

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        Them saying that they are a private institution and make their own rules isn’t quite saying what Trump and co told you it meant.

        It was the easiest legal argument to make.

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          A private organization until it is time for federal funding.

          Fuck off, pathetic defender of oligarchy.

          Edit: If the corruption of the DNC was purely an invention of Trump, DWS wouldn’t have lost her position and DB wouldn’t have lost her job.

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                You call it cheating because Trump and co told you it was.

                The WikiLeaks documents didn’t prove anything Bernie himself realized he lost on Jun 24th and stepped down to endorse Clinton.

                Why do you want to keep rehashing right wing propaganda about a 10 year old primary?

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                  Wikileaks absolutely proved Donna Brazile funneled debate questions to Clinton.

                  Trump didn’t tell me anything, in that I understand how DKIM works. Evidently you don’t, so you want to try and pretend that the emails were faked or modified. That’s not how encryption works, though.

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      Ah, but we must move on from that as well. The important stuff to pay attention to will only begin in 2032. Nothing until then matters.

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        This is what makes me lose hope in democracy.

        Bernie had no chance of winning a general election when he couldn’t even win a primary that’s why Trump wanted to run against him all three times and now there’s people comparing that with ICE occupying a city and murdering American citizens.

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          He did not lose the primary by democratic means, but by Democratic means. His primary performance cannot be used to gauge his performance in the general.

          However, I agree that there’s no point complaining about the corporate Democrats using their power to win. The thing for people who believed in Bernie to do is to get power, and use it to defeat the corporate Democrats.

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          You have it ass-backwards.

          Losing faith in democracy would be acknowledging that the amount of huge money and influence took power out of voters hands, choosing Hilary for them. You’re arguing that people shouldn’t vote for the candidate they support because of a system inherently lacking in actual democratic power. You’re supporting something that isn’t inherently democratic.

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          You’re right that he would have lost if he somehow won the primary. Both the Democrats and Republicans would oppose him, which is impossible to endure, unless Bernie could enact a Trump-style takeover. And the superdelegates thing among others makes that rather unlikely.

          So instead we get good cop bad cop in our elections, and a corporate puppet becomes President no matter what. Which is why I like to vote third party. Giving a vote that makes me an enemy of the entire country is too much fun to pass up.

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              I feel quite excellent over the fact that my chosen candidate is not a corporate puppet.

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                  The DNC literally admitted to braking it own rules and cheating for Hillary in court.

                  Your bullshit here that Bernie couldn’t win the primary so he wouldn’t win the general is post-hic rationalization of the DNC being an undemocratic institution and justifying their theft of the party.

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                  They are quite appreciative of my vote. For them, every vote really does count.