• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Californian here.

    There’s really no possible way I’ll ever have any sort of faith in my country again. I won’t go out of my way to help it. I’ll always default to assuming it’s a bad actor and that I need to protect myself from it. From here on out I’m a Californian, not an American.

    Orange dipshit will die. Sooner than later. But the country will still be full of irredeemably stupid assholes. I don’t feel any allegiance to that. It only serves to make me feel nauseous.

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      5 hours ago

      I’ve started to civilly disobey by removing myself from the economy as much as possible.

      Cancelling my car insurance felt like a rite of passage.

    • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      This is why we will never trust you guys again up here in Canada. Even if Trump and his crew all died tomorrow and somehow the friendliest, nicest person became the president, it wont matter. The relationship is done for.

      I realize to most Americans that doesnt mean much but its also how the rest of the world sees you. You guys are toxic. Maybe not as individuals. But as a nation.

      • mcv@lemmy.zip
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        7 hours ago

        Exactly. I think the EU should strengthen its ties to other European countries and Canada, and reduce or eliminate its dependency on the US or US companies. And look for more alliances elsewhere: South America, and democracies in Africa and Asia. I would rather deal with China than the US at this point (though Russia is still worse).

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      22 hours ago

      Welcome to the sensible German’s approach to “patriotism”. Definitely after WW2, but absolutely relevant again. Our governments have been full of shit ever since, with surprisingly the only non-selfish head of state having been the conservative Mrs. Merkel, whom no one expected it of. She still did spearheaded a government with fucked up social politics, but at least not for personal gain (only for that of her buddies in industry) - which is arguably a low bar to clear. Anyways, the bottomline is: I’m a human first, European second, a lot of things then, and a German only by some piece of paper.