• azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    No-one “needs” anyone but economics aren’t a zero-sum game and both the EU and the US benefited enormously from our economic and military ties, and cutting those ties will be painful and the faster it happens the more painful it will be.

    If we employ the economic nukes against the US right now, we will lose most digital payment systems for a few weeks as countries and bunks rush to implement Wero and the digital Euro, and we will face strong gas shortages as we currently rely on the US to make up for Russia’s. Europe and NA would immediately enter into a deep recession.

    The payment systems are a hugely understated threat but are being worked on actively. The fossil fuels aren’t understated but we also lack short-term solutions as electrification takes time (but also we aren’t doing nearly enough).

    However it is true that the EU is profoundly neoliberal and that ideology is very ill-equipped to deal with a fragmented world order in which free trade is no longer the default. Those assumptions are being challenged, however the far-right seems primed to bring about the populist “solution” of turning Europe into a bunch of mini-Russias.

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      Well that natural gas is blood gas. Fracked from lands, oil majors poison aqifers and destabilize faults, and deny it, leaving homeowners with poisoned aquifers, and air.

      So that is best case scenario for regular people in the US, to keep prices down below where oil majors pay politicians to send us to an early grave for a buck.

      I live on shale, luckily the wells were a bust so they went to greener pastures for now. They are busy turning environmental protesters, into terrorists, state by state and feds are working on it.

      It would be a perfect chance to get into renewables. Obviously you will instead do nuclear but this could be an opportunity to bypass fossil fuels and generate electicity from temperature differences with mediums that boil in that range. You could heat with that. Also more geothermal, starting out with air brought to ground temperature of 50 f year round 6 feet down.

      Getting off us payments has to be done, the world needs competition, the us is abusing sanctions more every year. It will help everyone getting competition in there, and tech. But your politicians are surrendering you to tech with age checks and chat control and however else they retrofit that rejected trojan horse into a trojan sheep your influencers keep trying to convince you all to bring inside the walls.

      Seriously, you need new popular politicians or will follow the us, and uk.

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        5 hours ago

        I agree fossil fuels are bad and renewables are good, but electric heat pumps aren’t going to be deployed in every house over the summer no matter how violent the price shock. To go green we need industrial capacity, lots of it, and a ton of political will that the far-right simply does not possess because they’d rather buy Russian gas in exchange for campaign financing.

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          4 hours ago

          Central heating and cooling. Pool resources, funding streams, build one geothermal to service a bunch of homes. Not a cure all, but it could make jobs too.

          Then looking at new ways to make energy like the temperature differences.

          It is not theoreticsl, oil just quashed it. The us navy has for decades had floating generators for tropical waters boiling and cooling ammonia at 80f surface and 60f below temps.

          Other mediums could be utilized, and you guys need energy, it is the perfect time to go around big oil if you could keep them from sabotaging it. Where a river meets a lake or ocean, ground to water temperatures, energy could be added to help it along. While water expands the most at 16k volume, others expand as well.