The rest of the world isn’t going to start World War 3 over Greenland, just abolish US relations.
This is what Trump/Miller want. They’re the abusive partner trying to get you to cut contact with all your friends and family.
edit: some naive fuckers in Lemmy. You just watched the USA kidnap the leader of another country and are currently making plans to kidnap the leaders of other neighboring countries and the rest of the world is just making frowny faces and stern condemnations. When Hitler annexed Anschluss there were plenty of people who were STILL saying “He won’t go after more, it’s fear-mongering, Europe’s strength will deter him.” Yes the US could take Greenland, and no it won’t lead to Europe going to war with the US because the consequences are too extreme. No, it’s not a good thing either if that’s what your thick skull is taking from this. There is no good outcome, sometimes some things happen and they’re just bad.
And when the rest of the world, like Canada, sells off their Tbonds and crashes the US economy, nationalizes US assets including patents, sells off US dollars reserves and cuts off exports - including hydro power, potash, oil, aluminum, and uranium, to name just a few from Canada - I guarantee the US will notice. Even one of these will be enough for the US to become the aggressor.
Greenland may seem minor, but where Greenland goes, Canada goes. For my country this is existential. And frankly, I can only assume you have typical American hubris if you assume the US will be allowed to do whatever they want.
Americans who enable this are entitled, spoiled, arrogant children who don’t understand a) how dependent they are on the other countries, b) how a threat to their pampered asses really looks and feels, and c) that the upcoming fight for other countries is existential, and not just for more treasure. Americans are fighting and dying for more profits for their billionaires and maybe a new iPhone. They’re fighting to protect a billionaire conman who fucks kids. The rest of the world is fighting for their existence. You tell me who is more motivated.
I can only assume you have typical American hubris if you assume the US will be allowed to do whatever they want.
Are we really doing this shit? I’m not reading the rest and I’m blocking you, you know damn well I don’t represent my country’s politics, and you fucks out there need to do better than become like this rotten country and start doing the tribalism shit. I am giving political analysis and if it sparks you to want to hate someone for it, send that hate where it belongs, the people who are controlling the US and will soon control Canada and europe as well. And I don’t mean Trump.
Oh it’s another one of the “billionaires are causing all of this and by recognizing that I absolve myself of all responsibility and justify my indignant anger towards countries that my country is threatening” Americans.
He’s really just saying that you’re demonstrating the intellectual capacity of a standard Trump supporter because you apparently think all Americans are equally responsible for this.
No I don’t but I’m tired of hearing Americans try to absolve themselves by pointing out the very obvious cause, as if identifying the problem of wealth inequality turns enemies into friends, or suddenly and magically means my country isn’t being threatened by half of the US population. Sorry, some of them are too far gone, and no amount of enlightenment is going to change the fact that I can’t trust the country that they control right now. I’m allowed to call that out and I’m allowed to be pissed.
And at the same time I’m allowed to cheer when I see angry Americans that are fighting back. I know there are good ones but I don’t think the ones that play the rhetorical absolution trick are owed anything for pointing out something that we all already knew, that we had been saying for decades, and that doesn’t do anything to help now.
Global instability from a Europe-North American war would likely cause a lot of conflicts around the world. Want it or not, the whole world is dependent on eachother, and if exports from North America and Europe get unstable, they rest of the world will be hit. Just like if exports from China were to get disrupted the rest of the world would also get fucked.
Global instability from a Europe-North American war would likely cause a lot of conflicts around the world.
An actual Europe/US war would raze the world to cinders. This is why Greenland is going to get us shut out from trade and protection, not start a war. I can’t speak for this current administration of death-cultists, but the EU doesn’t want the world reduced to cinders. This is why the administration thinks they can get away with annexing it, and they may to some degree.
An actual Europe/US war would raze the world to cinders
Why? Nobody except maybe Russia would want any part in that clusterfuck except to sell weapons, and Russia can barely take the Russian speaking part of Ukraine at the cost of significant long term growth.
An Africa without massively unequel leverage might actually develop their means of production instead of shipping gold ore and cocoa to Europe, a South America free of America might be able to assert itself instead of whatever the fuck Chile has been doing.
I don’t even know how to begin to explain this if you can’t already see how biblically devastating that would be for all human life across most of the world.
africa shit
There won’t be a rest of the world for Africa to work with, I cannot even fathom how someone can’t see how bad this would be, even if it never escalates to nuclear exchanges.
As simply as I can state it without delving into geopolitics that I know I’m not qualified to claim authority on, if two world super-powers faced off in a full-scale war, not even nuclear, it wouldn’t be a quick spat, it wouldn’t be a couple wacky years as the rest of the world looks on, it will ravage everything, and everyone will get drawn in. Everyone.
But it’s worse than that, because it’s not even going to be a border-war, it’s going to be a strategic/ballistic war, that means bombings, and if you don’t think two powers at war with each other, bombing each other’s cities, aren’t going to eventually cow to public demand for nuclear retribution, maybe not in short term, but somewhere down the line as the original actors are long gone and new leaders have taken the reins, in a world far less stable and reasonable world, man do I have some Fermi-Paradox solutions to show you.
The rest of the world isn’t going to start World War 3 over Greenland, just abolish US relations.
This is what Trump/Miller want. They’re the abusive partner trying to get you to cut contact with all your friends and family.
edit: some naive fuckers in Lemmy. You just watched the USA kidnap the leader of another country and are currently making plans to kidnap the leaders of other neighboring countries and the rest of the world is just making frowny faces and stern condemnations. When Hitler annexed Anschluss there were plenty of people who were STILL saying “He won’t go after more, it’s fear-mongering, Europe’s strength will deter him.” Yes the US could take Greenland, and no it won’t lead to Europe going to war with the US because the consequences are too extreme. No, it’s not a good thing either if that’s what your thick skull is taking from this. There is no good outcome, sometimes some things happen and they’re just bad.
Let’s be clear, the US is starting it.
And when the rest of the world, like Canada, sells off their Tbonds and crashes the US economy, nationalizes US assets including patents, sells off US dollars reserves and cuts off exports - including hydro power, potash, oil, aluminum, and uranium, to name just a few from Canada - I guarantee the US will notice. Even one of these will be enough for the US to become the aggressor.
Greenland may seem minor, but where Greenland goes, Canada goes. For my country this is existential. And frankly, I can only assume you have typical American hubris if you assume the US will be allowed to do whatever they want.
Americans who enable this are entitled, spoiled, arrogant children who don’t understand a) how dependent they are on the other countries, b) how a threat to their pampered asses really looks and feels, and c) that the upcoming fight for other countries is existential, and not just for more treasure. Americans are fighting and dying for more profits for their billionaires and maybe a new iPhone. They’re fighting to protect a billionaire conman who fucks kids. The rest of the world is fighting for their existence. You tell me who is more motivated.
Are we really doing this shit? I’m not reading the rest and I’m blocking you, you know damn well I don’t represent my country’s politics, and you fucks out there need to do better than become like this rotten country and start doing the tribalism shit. I am giving political analysis and if it sparks you to want to hate someone for it, send that hate where it belongs, the people who are controlling the US and will soon control Canada and europe as well. And I don’t mean Trump.
Oh it’s another one of the “billionaires are causing all of this and by recognizing that I absolve myself of all responsibility and justify my indignant anger towards countries that my country is threatening” Americans.
Any more of you around?
He’s really just saying that you’re demonstrating the intellectual capacity of a standard Trump supporter because you apparently think all Americans are equally responsible for this.
No I don’t but I’m tired of hearing Americans try to absolve themselves by pointing out the very obvious cause, as if identifying the problem of wealth inequality turns enemies into friends, or suddenly and magically means my country isn’t being threatened by half of the US population. Sorry, some of them are too far gone, and no amount of enlightenment is going to change the fact that I can’t trust the country that they control right now. I’m allowed to call that out and I’m allowed to be pissed.
And at the same time I’m allowed to cheer when I see angry Americans that are fighting back. I know there are good ones but I don’t think the ones that play the rhetorical absolution trick are owed anything for pointing out something that we all already knew, that we had been saying for decades, and that doesn’t do anything to help now.
I feel like a lot of Europe didn’t even bother to condemn the Venezuela thing
It won’t start WW3, as Africa nor asia will hop onto the conflict.
Global instability from a Europe-North American war would likely cause a lot of conflicts around the world. Want it or not, the whole world is dependent on eachother, and if exports from North America and Europe get unstable, they rest of the world will be hit. Just like if exports from China were to get disrupted the rest of the world would also get fucked.
An actual Europe/US war would raze the world to cinders. This is why Greenland is going to get us shut out from trade and protection, not start a war. I can’t speak for this current administration of death-cultists, but the EU doesn’t want the world reduced to cinders. This is why the administration thinks they can get away with annexing it, and they may to some degree.
Why? Nobody except maybe Russia would want any part in that clusterfuck except to sell weapons, and Russia can barely take the Russian speaking part of Ukraine at the cost of significant long term growth.
An Africa without massively unequel leverage might actually develop their means of production instead of shipping gold ore and cocoa to Europe, a South America free of America might be able to assert itself instead of whatever the fuck Chile has been doing.
I don’t even know how to begin to explain this if you can’t already see how biblically devastating that would be for all human life across most of the world.
There won’t be a rest of the world for Africa to work with, I cannot even fathom how someone can’t see how bad this would be, even if it never escalates to nuclear exchanges.
Again, why would Mexico, Brazil, China, India want anything to do with our suprise murder suicide?
A US-EU war would have the rest of the world staying tf away, since they have nothing at all to gain.
As simply as I can state it without delving into geopolitics that I know I’m not qualified to claim authority on, if two world super-powers faced off in a full-scale war, not even nuclear, it wouldn’t be a quick spat, it wouldn’t be a couple wacky years as the rest of the world looks on, it will ravage everything, and everyone will get drawn in. Everyone.
But it’s worse than that, because it’s not even going to be a border-war, it’s going to be a strategic/ballistic war, that means bombings, and if you don’t think two powers at war with each other, bombing each other’s cities, aren’t going to eventually cow to public demand for nuclear retribution, maybe not in short term, but somewhere down the line as the original actors are long gone and new leaders have taken the reins, in a world far less stable and reasonable world, man do I have some Fermi-Paradox solutions to show you.
My question again, what does any country outside the imperial core have to gain by getting drawn in?
“It wont start ww2, its just a tiny conflict between germany and poland over Danzig”